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County road condition woes traced to budget shortfall

Friday, March 12, 2010
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A worker at the Greene County Highway Garage, near Switz City, moves some road stone from a large pile in preparation to be loaded onto a truck. Highway superintendent Mike Hennette said about 8,000 tons of stone has been applied to county gravel roads in the last couple of weeks. However, he admits that amount is woefully short of the amount that is actually needed.
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With a 10-ton weight limit on the county roads and a dwindling supply of rock to spread over the gravel roads, Greene County Highway Superintendent Mike Hennette is trying to make ends meet and still satisfy the concerns of citizens who are unhappy with road conditions.

There is no denying that this has been a tough year on unpaved county roads. They've lost their base and many have been transformed into dirt roads that are impassible or difficult to drive on at best.

"The freeze and thaw just killed us and that is what happened," Hennette said matter-of-factly.

Hennette said his office has fielded a lot of calls from upset residents in the last three weeks, who were complaining about the condition of their roads -- both paved and gravel.

But the rate of calls has slowed and Hennette said he understands the frustration.

He also shares the frustration, but says he is facing a budget shortfall and there are not many options left other than patience.

Repair of roads utilized by school buses is a priority for Hennette's 32-member road crew.

"We try to cater to school bus routes first. We really try to do that. With five school districts, a lot them (the roads) get used and that is where we try to concentrate our efforts. During this last spell that is where we did try to concentrate. So, maybe we didn't get them all, but I feel like we got quite a bit of them," the road superintendent commented on Friday morning.

Hennette explained that he has $250,000 appropriated for the purchase of rock -- much less than last year.

His budget took a big hit when the state took $532,000 out of the county's Motor Vehicle Highway Fund last summer.

"Not all of that obviously was rock, but a portion of it was," he added.

The road superintendent said about 8,000 tons of rock has been spread over county roads in the past three weeks in an effort to help the situation.

He knows that this rock just doesn't go far enough to bring the county's approximate 500 miles of gravel roads up to standard.

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This photo was provided by Sherry Ervin, rural Linton, who lives on County Road 1100W, about 2 1/2 miles north of Humphreys Park in Linton. It's typical of the condition of some of the county's gravel roads.

Hennette says if you have a 13-ton truck load of stone and you spread it two inches thick and nine feet wide it will cover about 120 feet of road.

"You figure it up ... we are giving roughly $11.60 a ton for stone. So you can figure up how many tons were are going to get to spread on 500 miles of gravel roads. That don't take a mathematician long to figure it up. You are not going to get much."

Using that formula, it takes roughly 572 tons of rock to do one mile of roadway at a cost of about $6,635.

Hennette said it will be several more weeks until paved road patching of potholes can be done.

"The ground is still too wet," he noted. "If you'd do it now, you'd just be wasting your money. Once we get a little dry weather, that's when we'll get our pothole patcher out and we'll start on them."

Hennette explained there are two ways to patch pavement -- cold mix and hot mix.

The county did purchase one truck load of cold patch mix -- which sells for about $97 a ton. That compares with hot asphalt mix which is about $43 a ton.

The cold mix can be applied at any time of the year, but the cost is prohibitive.

The availability of hot mix is dependent on when the asphalt plants start to make it in the spring. Hennette estimated that date would be near April 1.

"One we can get hot mix then we are going to be doing some patching," he promised.

Sherry Ervin, rural Linton, lives on County Road 1100W, about 2 1/2 miles north of Humphreys Park in Linton.

She's one of those residents who is not happy with the condition of her county road, which she called a dirt road rather than a gravel road -- a problem that dates back at least eight years.

"We have lived out here for 21 years and have had it with the way the county takes care of this road. There is a lot of traffic on this road since it also runs along side Lone Tree Road (County Road 1000W) from Linton to State Road 48. There has been no gravel put on this road in years. When they do come around and grade it all they do is pull the garbage along the side of the road into it. Every time this road is graded we have flat tires and we are not the only ones," she commented in an e-mail to the Greene County Daily World.

Ervin explained that her house is located across from the state wildlife area and "H Lake" -- areas that draw some outdoorsmen and fishermen.

The road condition is hurting tourism she contends.

"They make one trip down this road with their vehicle, boat, and trailer and decide they do not want to ruin what they have. I have stopped and let several people use my cell phone because their boat has bounced off of their trailer or they have a flat tire," Ervin commented.

In her frustration, she erected a sign along her road which reads "Wheel Tax at Work."

Hennette explained Wheel Tax money can only be used for repair or construction of roads and streets, and not for gravel roads, like the one Ervin lives on.

Wheel Tax also can not be used for the purchase of equipment and or to pay for manpower.

The purchase of stone comes from the Motor Vehicle Highway Fund.

"If they see us out patching (paved roads), it's Wheel Tax money," he added.

Becky Herndon of Becky's Beauty Salon in Lyons, who lives near Beehunter, says her road was in terrible shape before a couple loads of rock were spread and grader work was done in the last week.

"We finally got some rock put on, so they (the county) have done some improvements," Herndon told the Greene County Daily World. "It's so much better now. It was bad, but it is better now ... I was very pleased," she said.

She explained that prior to the upgrade the road was nearly impassible in both directions.

"I got stuck in it. It was deep. The ruts were deeper than a one-litre pop bottle. My husband's car got stuck."


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become a commisioner they (the commisioners)always seem to be able to find enough money to have thier roads paved

-- Posted by greene co native on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 3:28 PM

If the roads were graded as needed, they wouldnt need to be using alot of rock. The county need to take a lesson from some of the local coal mines. They keep their roads graded and dont use alot of rock.

-- Posted by bulldog95 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 3:29 PM

That's true too Greene co native. It seems to me that alot of the roads on the east side of the bridge are in alot better shape then the ones on the west side of the bridge. If people dont believe me, then just take a drive. The county road taht goes from Goosepond to Bucktown has been bad for years. Park road between CR400N to hwy 48 is in sad shape.

-- Posted by bulldog95 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM

Maybe the county commissioners should check out 1375 W and 150 N. These are both part of bus routes in Linton and they are nothing but cracked pavement and pot holes.

-- Posted by lhsgraduate on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 5:24 PM

I'm thankful I don't have this guy's job!

-- Posted by Blueyedame on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 5:38 PM

No money for gravel but plenty of cash for traffic studies and speed limit signs. Huummmm?

-- Posted by keninman on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 6:05 PM

i got stuck 950e tonight i bet they dont do any thing to the road.yes the school bus does come down this road.

-- Posted by hd2004 on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 7:35 PM

There are states that do not have county roads

and ALL roads are state maintained no matter where they are.

I can't imagine having to deal with mud or

even gravel. The Wheel Tax money doesn't seem

to be helping much......

-- Posted by Carnac on Fri, Mar 12, 2010, at 11:53 PM

I'm so glad they were able to keep everyone working instead of buying material needed to repair the roads. Now what happends with the employees once they run out of stone/asphalt? If they have nothing to fix the roads with, what will the employees be doing?

-- Posted by ConcernedDad on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 1:07 AM

My Grandson told me when he was 3 years old that farming was all about management, I think the problem with all the county roads comes down to that. Take a lesson from my grandson county officials

-- Posted by Greene Co. Farmer on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 6:38 AM

I also feel bad for Mr. Hennette. He can not win here unless the entire county becomes a smooth piece of asphalt. Put yourself in his shoes, readers. Re-read the first part of the article. He is trying to make lemonade out of lemons. It just can not be done.

-- Posted by RDK on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 8:25 AM

I understand Mr Hennette is hearing it from all sides but quite honestly thats why he is paid more

What gets people mad is you drive on these road that are falling apart then you drive on the road that commioner Holtsclaw lives on and not only was it paved last year but the roads on each side of him were also paved, I might also add they are not high traffic roads

-- Posted by greene co native on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 10:07 AM

A family friend and neighbor to my parents in Vigo County is a county commissioner. Their road is always last to get attention simply because he doesn't want accused of favoritism. It works both ways I guess...

-- Posted by Blueyedame on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 10:53 AM

Without materials there us still plenty of work that can be done to these roads. Very few are crowned properly, ditch work can be done, and the biggest thing I see is making the roads drain properly by removing the graded "burm" or raised shoulder on these roads. We have what looks like "new" graders and good looking equipment, let's use the equipment and manpower to properly prepare these roads for when we do get materials.

The goal of management is to manage what you have and are dealt. We all know funding is down, so isn't it past time to stop using this excuse and manage what we have?

Not to offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

-- Posted by Chris Cornelius on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 12:47 PM

Most of the roads in the northwestern part of the county are in bad shape. Many of these roads were put in place by the coal mines after the land was stripped way back when. I noticed that some of the gravel (now mud) roads near the Sullivan county line are nearly impassable. It worried me last night to see the fire trucks struggling to get down the roads. People in this area might see delays when they call 911.

-- Posted by Shakamak22 on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 5:00 PM

I agree with Chris, work the roads correctly.

-- Posted by gary g on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 9:00 PM

I can't remember the last time I have seen a road grader on the roads around Linton, Switz City or Lyons.

-- Posted by localyokal on Sat, Mar 13, 2010, at 9:07 PM

We get our road graded on a regular basis by Mr. Pointer, because they use our road to get to everywhere else. We have pot holes the size of a small car on the paved part and now due to the highway dept traffic our gravel road is now mud. So I don't know who loses or wins?????

-- Posted by motheringreene on Sun, Mar 14, 2010, at 2:07 PM

32 county highway workers!!! Seems very high when you have only 13 deputies.

-- Posted by whocares on Mon, Mar 15, 2010, at 7:48 AM

if wheel tax is for the construction and repair of current roads, and for the equipment and manpower to do such,,....why not just pave this ladies road...is there a statue that says it has to be gravel...i mean we don't choose what we pay taxes on...why do they choose how the heck it's spent. I understand a lot of these peoples concerns it's hell on these roads around this county...gravel,blacktop,chip 'n' seal whatever the type they all are in sad shape...you can't even own a nice vehicle around here...between the nasty hot patch tar crap they use because it's cheap..and the deep ruts n holes they haven't fixed your cars paint and tires and rims just take an absolute beating..not to mention the suspension wear we must be putting n our cars.

-- Posted by direct thought on Tue, Mar 16, 2010, at 4:09 AM

its funny they say they cater to bus routes first! Well the bus driver on our road has to call everytime she needs gravel or they will not cater to our road! We have a huge sink whole in the middle of our road! County will be short on funds when they get sued for vehicle getting tore up!

-- Posted by easternmom on Tue, Mar 16, 2010, at 12:39 PM

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=1...

here is whats next.

-- Posted by gary g on Tue, Mar 16, 2010, at 6:36 PM


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