Council member Linda Bedwell presented a revised draft of the ordinance for the council's review and said she hoped action might be taken at next month's meeting.
Linton Police Chief Troy Jerrell was asked by council member Bedwell to look over the ordinance and said his department will inspect the carts, if the ordinance is adopted.
"To the best of my knowledge, it (the proposed ordinance) goes by state law and regulations," he said.
Councilman Charlie Cox said there's still some uncertainty in the draft ordinance whether operators will be allowed to cross the intersections of State Roads 54 (A-Street) and State Road 59 (South Main Street).
As written, the ordinance states that no person may operate a golf cart for any reason on any street where operation is prohibited by a posted sign; State Roads 54 and 59 on their entire length; any of the above streets except State Road 54 and 59 may be driven across from one side to the other at the intersection.
Cox suggested striking the last part of that statement saying, "You have to be able to cross it."
He pointed out that an ordinance drafted by the city of Bristol allows for the crossing of a state roads at designated and marked golf cart crossings.
"I think law has allowed for it personally, Cox said.
Council member Bedwell sided with Cox and said, "I just don't think that when the state says the cities and towns could make their own ordinances that they just made the law so you can't cross the highway. I just don't think that is what the state intended for them to do."
City Attorney Tim Shonk disagreed and said he had some question about whether this is legal.
"I don't think we have the authority to allow them onto the state highway," Shonk told the council. "That's not our (the city's) highway, that's the state's highway."
He continued, "I didn't find anything that will allow you to run across. It is not our highway, it's the state's highway. I didn't see anything that will allow us to give people permission to run across it."
Bedwell speaking to Shonk said, "That is what we pay you for, you find it out for us."
To that Shonk replied, "There isn't anything to find out about what they intended. If you want to go against my advice, put it in there and say they can go across (the intersection), but I am not going say they can cross it because I can't find anything that clearly says they can."
Cox noted that a clarification needs to be made in the final ordinance.
"The point of the ordinance is so that the ordinance is written and if they violate this ordinance they are subject to fines and tickets. So we shouldn't say we should allow them to do something that is illegal in my opinion," Cox said.
In April, the state General Assembly approved legislation -- House Bill 1483 -- allowing golf carts to be driven in towns and cities beginning July 1 -- if there is a local ordinance allowing it.
Provisions within the current legislation require the driver of the golf cart to have a valid driver's license and the vehicle to have insurance as well as a revolving red or amber light or slow-moving-vehicle sign.
All of the state provisions are included in the city's working document -- which also notes additional details such as insurance coverage minimums and guidelines on placement of slow-moving-vehicle signs and revolving red or amber lights.
The document prohibits use of golf carts on sidewalks and pedestrian walkways as well as in the city park, city cemetery, any property owned or leased in the city and anywhere on the grass skirt between street and sidewalk in the city.
According to the draft ordinance, carts are to be operated on "the extreme right side of the roadway and travel with the flow of traffic; carts shall be operated in single file with headlights and taillights in operation at all times of the day or night; if a trailer is towed behind a cart, the trailer must conform to all lighting requirements for carts; cart operators shall yield right of way to all other vehicular traffic and pedestrians".
In addition, carts -- under terms of the proposed ordinance -- will only be allowed to be operated during daylight hours -- which will consist of one-half hour after sunrise and one-half hour prior to sunset.
The working document also includes:
* Golf carts are required to have head and tail lights on when in operation.
* No person shall operate a golf cart that is not equipped with a rearview mirror.
* A golf cart must have a permit in order to be driven in the city. Permits will be issued on a yearly basis with a fee of $25 valid from Jan. 1 through Dec. 31.
* Golf carts will be inspected prior to any permit being issued by the Linton Police Department. The permits will be issued by the clerk-treasurer's office.
The ordinance also spells fines -- which will be deposited in the city's general fund -- for violation of its provisions.
* $100 for the first offense within a two-year period.
* $250 for the second offense within a two-year period.
* $500 for the third offense within a two-year period.
Councilman Cox also took exception to a provision in the ordinance that states a golf cart shall be impounded if a person violates any portion of the ordinance more than four times in a two-year period.
"I think that is too many. If they violate it more than two times (it should be impounded)," Cox said.
The council agreed to amend the ordinance to two violations.
The proposed ordinance does not regulate the operation of "Electric Personal Assistance Mobility Devices" or restrict the use of golf carts by law enforcement agencies, fire departments, municipalities or state agencies.
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If my golf cart is going to be legislated, then so should "electric personal assistance mobility devices". If a golf cart can't operate on a state highway, then neither should those chairs...golf carts will have lights-those don't. And I can't count the number of times "people" in those chairs have caused traffic backups by travelling ON the highway, not the sidewalks. And yet, time after time, there they are, on the highway.
My goodness do we have to be so difficult? Just shut up and let them be driven. If you do pass an ordinance so help me every single four wheeler better comply or I will wear you out!
Golf carts have been utilized in Linton for years.
The use of golf carts in Linton has never caused me one problem. Why do we insist on legislating something that is not in any way detrimental to the community. Golf carts are quiet and they are environmentally friendly. Leave the golf carts be and focus our attention on something constructive.
I have a Golf Cart and My Insurance Company says that it has to be Street Legal (State Farm)with Turn sigals Brake lights headlights and tail lights and a horn. Insurance same as Pl & Pd on a car. Outside of $50.00 a year for a permit I would say Jasonville has the best Cart Ordinance around.
Unless I am mistaken the Indiana State Code says it is illegal to operate a golf cart within the city limits unless the city has adopted an ordinance allowing their operation. To allow their operation without the ordinance is a state violation and would be subject to fines and penalties.
Get some jobs in Linton. Stop the BS!
For those of you who are commenting on the "BS" and "leaving golfs carts alone and giving your time to something more constructive" etc., please pay attention to the post by #1LakerFan. That post is correct in the fact they are illegal until your city passes an ordinance so if you want to be able to operate golf carts, perhaps you might applaud the administration for addressing the issue. Try being positive for once. Maybe we would actually get some things done!
If you can't operate a golf cart on city property, does that mean I have to walk the golf course from now on (which is owned by the city)? If so, I quess I'll need to find another course to play. Just a thought from the little I've read on the subject. I have not seen the new ordinance proposal.
Comm center... Go live somewhere else. Between annexation lies from the city and wasted time on silly ordinances we are sure getting our worth. Leave the quiet, 9 mile per hour vehicles alone. I bet you have a four wheeler.
communitycentered:
"follow the law!" You betcha, I will. Right after you have all of the drug dealers selling illegal drugs to our school age children locked up. And, the city budget operating with a surplus with no further tax increases. No pot holes in city streets. City sidewalks completely repaired, level, and pedestrian usable.
I could go on, but you would miss the point anyway. You are too busy rereading "state law".
We have big problems in this community, state, and country. Golf carts are NOT among them.
The Indiana Code reads -
"IC 9-21-8-57
Operation of golf cart on highway
Sec. 57. A golf cart may not be operated on a highway except in accordance with an ordinance adopted under IC 9-21-1-3(a)(14) and IC 9-21-1-3.3(a) authorizing the operation of a golf cart on the highway."
I couldn't find a reference that requires towns to pass an ordinance to allow their operation on city streets. Does anyone know where that is referenced?
IC Reference:
http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/ti...
Still looking...
Here is a google search for all mentions of 'Golf Cart' in the Indiana State code. I'm not sure where the city attorney sees a restriction on golf carts or other slow moving vehicles on the highway. (click on the link below for all mentions of golf cart in the IC)
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=golf+cart...
For Liberty- The answer was in your post.
IC 9-21-1-3.3
Ordinances regarding use of golf carts on highway
Sec. 3.3. (a) A city or a town may adopt by ordinance traffic regulations concerning the use of golf carts on a highway under the jurisdiction of the city or the town. An ordinance adopted under this subsection may not:
(1) conflict with or duplicate another state law; or
(2) conflict with a driver's licensing requirement of another
provision of the Indiana Code.
(b) A fine assessed for a violation of a traffic ordinance adopted by a city or a town under this section shall be deposited into the general fund of the city or town.
(c) A person who violates subsection (a) commits a Class C infraction.
As added by P.L.150-2009, SEC.12. Amended by P.L.182-2009(ss), SEC.292.
What about these scooters that people drive on the road? You dont have to have license to operate them yet they go right down the highway!! I know for a fact there is a woman who lost her license for DUI yet she goes right down the highway on a scooter. Is this less than a golf cart?? Get real people!!
I certainly won't forget just how much money the council wasted on legal fees rewriting the golf course ordinance. There is simply no reason for it, just pass the dang thing saying carts have to comply with state law. Nothing more is needed. If you can't handle this then you have no business trying to handle the city.
I DO NOT BELIEVE GOLF CARTS, FOUR WHEELERS OR THE MOTORIZED CHAIRS BELONG ON ANY HIGHWAY OR STREET WHETHER IT IS JASONVILLE, WORTHINGTON, LYONS, BLOOMFIELD OR SWITZ CITY, KEEP THEM WHERE THEY BELONG: GOLF COURSE FOR GOLF CARTS, RED BIRD FOR THE FOUR WHEELERS, OR AT HOME WITH THE MOTORIZED CHAIRS, IT IS VERY VERY DANGEROUS WHEN YOU MIX THEM WITH CARS/TRUCKS/MOTORCYCLES, BECAUSE HALF OF THE DRIVERS OF CARS/TRUCKS/MOTORCYLES DO NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS ON THE ROADS, WISE UP TOWNS!!!!!!!!!
pf_cii - The code indicates that the ordinance is optional. It reads, "A city or a town may adopt by ordinance traffic regulations concerning the use of golf carts on a highway under the jurisdiction of the city or the town.", the key word there being 'may adopt'.
It grants the town the authority to enact an ordinance if they so choose, it does not mandate an ordinance as a requirement for operating golf carts, or other slow-moving vehicles for that matter, on city streets.
If they had intended that towns be required to adopt an ordinance they would have used 'shall' instead of 'may'.
This is just my opinion though.
I will default to my libertarian ideals on this. I don't like the idea of golf carts on roads but I do think they should be allowed on the roads. I hope the operators and passengers are aware of the possible consequences and accept them.
It is human nature to make mistakes. Some driver, either of a car or golf cart, is gonna make a bad choice and someone is going to get seriously hurt or die. I would bet on that.
The carts and 4-wheelers are using the roads and so any money collected should be used to fund road construction and maintenance, not some general-use fund.
Why can't the ordinance be as simple as "Operated by a licensed driver, insured, well visible at night (ie; lights, reflectivity, slow moving sign), under the same rules and speeds as set forth by the town, with a "city of linton" permit sticker."
Otherwise I'll drive the fast & loud 4 wheeler around next summer.