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Lodging in the works near Goose Pond FWA

Monday, June 29, 2009

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Goose Pond Fish and Wildlife area near Linton is quickly becoming a destination for birders and tourists. Plans have been announced by a private developer to construct a 10-room inn. These waterfowl and birds were recently photographed at Goose Pond Unit 9.
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If developers around Goose Pond build it -- a hotel -- the tourists will come.

But for right now, one of the largest challenges facing the developing fish and wildlife area is finding facilities, said Goose Pond Fish and Wildlife Area property manager Brad Feaster.

Feaster, speaking to the Greene County Historical Society Sunday at Pleasant Grove Farms, said two carloads of birdwatchers visiting Goose Pond spent the night in their car, due to no vacancies in area hotels.

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Goose Pond FWA is substantially more limited in what it can do than other state parks regarding activities such as horseback riding and ATV use.

However, the area, funded in part through fish and hunting licenses as well as a federal surcharge on gun sales, does allow fishing, hunting, and bird-watching.

Historical Society members suggested actively pursuing a national hotel chain which would compliment Linton's Park Inn, which presently is frequently booked to capacity due to tourism. The lack of other nearby hotels means some tourists seek lodging in Vincennes or Terre Haute, per the discussion.

Feaster said that Goose Pond officials are actively working with local economic development groups to encourage new facilities. The goal, he said, is for the fish and wildlife area to eventually become the anchor for county tourism, spurring development that could include hotels, restaurants, an RV park, a water park and campgrounds.

Some relief could come with the development of a 10-room inn at Pleasant Grove by John Cline. The developer also plans to expand a home on the property, near the Goosepond FWA, adding a 30-seat restaurant and a 50-seat conference room.

When completed, the adjoining home will house his caretaker and a chef.

"I'm going after a small crowd with high quality suites," he said, adding that he also plans a three-acre landscaped maze of bushes.

"It will never be finished in my lifetime," Cline said with a laugh. "That's why I started it."

Cline's uncertain how soon the inn's construction will be underway, and declined to set a timetable because he's concerned it might take longer than he could predict. However, he's optimistic the project will succeed.

Quality, not quantity, is Cline's focus, a goal which is in accord with what Feaster described as Goose Pond's operational philosophy. The area limits the number of hunters, fishermen and birdwatchers because many, if unable to visit Goose Pond, can enjoy other sites such as Shakamak State Park, Greene-Sullivan State Forest, Minnehaha FWA and Redbird Riding Area.

"In this state, we are blessed with tens of thousands of acres of public wildlife areas," he said.

"We're about trying to create quality outings, so that when people are out there, they have a good time."

Another challenge facing Goose Pond, Feaster said, is procuring funds to begin the area's master plan which will eventually allow further development of the area. Presently, the state's budget deliberations have funding needed to even begin the plan tied up, and as lawmakers struggle with money woes, a resolution is uncertain.

"We don't even have the money to start the master plan right now," he said.

Goose Pond, limited at present to a check-in station and the area office, also has encountered difficulties establishing how many tourists actually visit the site, as presently a check-in station which relies upon the honor system.

As a result, Feaster estimated only about 10 percent of those visiting Goose Pond actually register -- a concern, since state funds can be linked to the amounts of use.

At around 8,000 acres, Goose Pond FWA is far smaller than the original wetlands it restored, which stretched as far as 30,000 acres, Feaster said.

Mosquitoes aren't the problem some critics suspected the wetlands could bring, he said, because much of the wetland's water does not lie stagnant.

"I get quite a bit more mosquitoes in my backyard at Green Acres than I do at Goose Pond," he said. "It's buggy out there. There are a lot of bugs, but you get that anywhere you have wetlands. By now means was it as bad as people expected, though."

Nor are birds brought to the wildlife area a substantial problem for area farmers, some of whom feared that their neighboring crops would be picked clean, Feaster said.

While Goose Pond also contains "bigger fish than many people would expect" the area will not be a managed fishery, Feaster said. That's because the waters are as shallow as three feet in most places, and much must be drained periodically. That poses problems for a fishery.

"Some places are 15 to 20 feet deep, but not much," Feaster said.

Trees and weeds also pose woes, as the area's workers constantly battle unwanted growth .

"We spend hours and hours, and thousands of dollars, killing trees" that don't belong, he said, adding that reed canary grass used to shore up banks of creeks is a frequent problem.

However, killing pesky plants isn't the all the work. About 1,400 acres of prairie grass has been planted in the area, along with several trees.

Much of Goose Pond can be seen from State Road 59 and the neighboring county roads, Feaster said, although not everyone passing by realizes what's out there.

"It's kind of hard to see at 60 mph. You almost need to slow down," he said.


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Has anyone in the area thought about a Bed & Breakfast?

-- Posted by escapee on Mon, Jun 29, 2009, at 8:27 PM

The 10 room Inn at Pleasant Grove is going to be awesome! I personally broke ground on the property about a week ago! :)

It is true, the skeeters are bad at night.

Deidre Cline

-- Posted by DCline on Mon, Jun 29, 2009, at 9:39 PM

I honestly didn't know we were to register. My husband and I watch birds there often. We will have to make sure to do that from now on. I so enjoy GPFWA. What an asset for our community. Brad Feaster is doing a fantastic job!

-- Posted by jo74 on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 12:29 AM

Shakamak should have put in a hotel/restaurant years ago. Bed and Breakfast would be a good thing for this area, too.

-- Posted by Longtimelintonlady on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 8:54 AM

2 car loads of people spent the night in their cars!!! last week it was 95 degree's out! are they nuts! maybe someone should have told the amazed people about Sullivan Motel, Carlisle Motel, Allens Motel, but who do they contact?

It sounds to me like a bunch of educated idiots!!

the whole project is a slap to greene counties face! we receive no tax dollars for the 4000 acres that we use to receive and we have people staying all night in their vehicles wow!

-- Posted by whatsupingreenecounty on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 1:17 PM

I think they need to put in parking meters on Highway 59 since they park along the highway instead of the pull offs. That would be a way to make money. Yes, there are mosquitoes in the GP and I wonder where Mr. Feaster thinks all the mosquitoes at his house are coming from. I went through the GP at times during construction and I never saw a hole 15-20 feet deep. You wouldn't have that deep of a hole with water with the biggest of all rains. It is nice to paint a pretty picture but not all see it a land of beauty but more like a crop of weeds and a breeding place for mosquitoes. It would look much prettier with green fields of corn and beans growing in them than what is out there. Even with a year like we have had the fields would have been planted, just look at the fields that are not a part of the GP wetlands. Sorry but you will never convince me that the wetlands is a better place than the farm ground. I don't like the idea of "searching for a national hotel chain" to pursue building that would just run the "locally" owned out of busines. We need to take care of our "own" first not some big chain. Anyway what does Greene County offer a national chain? Not much!

-- Posted by ethelmertz on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 1:25 PM

I can't believe how uninformed some people are about the Goosepond and what it could offer our community. Maybe Greene county would not be such a depressed area if people were not so negative and instead willing to think farther than a row of corn or beans.

-- Posted by Beehunter on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 2:03 PM

It is more like 8000 acres that we are getting NO tax dollars from. Beehunter, there is more money in corn and beans than mosquitoes, weeds and water. I don't think you could survive on the wetlands diet. I will take corn and beans any ole day in my diet.

-- Posted by ethelmertz on Tue, Jun 30, 2009, at 7:47 PM

Any project will have its naysayers. I hope the dreams for visitors to boost the economy will be come true and I am happy for the wildlife who will benefit the most.

-- Posted by CntryGrammy on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 8:08 AM

ok beehunter, lets just look beyond those rows of corn & beans you have brought up. where do you see the goosepond project in say 15, 20 years? do you realize how much money our county will have lost in the next 15 - 20 years? all for the wildlife?? well you know we have had a plenty of wildlife without this stupid ugly project that millions of dollars have been sunk in to. the

Greene Sullivan state forest is one tremendaous sactuary for wildlife Birds, we sure didn't need to take from our counties' tax's to do this ugly project. I'de much rather have corn and beans and wheat as to slugs, mosquito's and snakes and overgrown out of control lop lolly of weeds..

-- Posted by elynn66 on Wed, Jul 1, 2009, at 12:28 PM

I cant believe that anyone would be happy about all the standing water down at the GoosePond being so great for the community. Nothing but a skeeter haven! And my husband worked at the GoosePond when they raised corn and he said you seen MORE wildlife down there then because at least they had something to eat. What have they got to eat there now? NOTHING!!! There was so much negative when they were even thinking about doing this project in the first place but the voice of the people was not heard so personally I believe that the government can destroy any land they want and get by with it. They tore down 4 homes down there that someone could have lived in. To me its nothing but a waste of money!! If they wanted to really do something good for the community they should have made something that people could of really enjoyed. Swimming, Boating, Fishing, etc. instead of thinking alot of people get their kicks outta watching a few birds fly around and do nothing!

-- Posted by Scorpio1969 on Wed, Jul 8, 2009, at 10:27 AM


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