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Company claims county out of line on 2007 asphalt material bid

Wednesday, December 26, 2007

The Greene County Commissioners are expected to formally award annual bids next week for a variety of contracted products, including asphalt emulsion materials, a component used on chip and seal and "cold patch" asphalt road repair jobs by the highway department.

The bids for 2008 were submitted at the Dec. 18 meeting and taken under advisement. They will be formally awarded at the next commissioner's meeting Jan. 2.

However, one Indianapolis firm that was the successful low bidder for the asphalt emulsion product in 2007 didn't submit a bid to the county for next year because none of their product was purchased under last year's bid contract.

Marathon Oil did respond to the request for bids for 2008 and submitted a bid at the Dec. 18 meeting, but left all of the bid price amounts blank as a symbolic gesture of their disappointment with the way their low bid was handled for the calendar year 2007.

For the current year the commissioners in January accepted bids from Marathon Oil and Asphalt Materials, Inc. of Lawrenceville, Ill.

Both bids were accepted because there is an escalator clause in the contract that allows for movement in the price during the year depending on the base asphalt price.

Walter S. Quate. Senior Territory Manager, Marathon Petroleum Company, LLC, of Indianapolis, told the Greene County Daily World on Wednesday that he is disappointed that the county failed to live up to its end of the deal with his company.

"It's extremely frustrating and it's disappointing. I can't for the life of me figure out why a county advertises for competitive bids and then doesn't honor the low bid," he said.

Further he says his firm will not bid for business with Greene County in the future unless written assurance is received that Marathon's asphalt emulsions will be purchased if they are the successful low bidder, as they were in 2007.

Quate said he had several conversations with highway supervisor Basil Shepherd questioning his firm had received no product orders. There was no satisfactory response about when he planned on purchasing any materials from Marathon.

"He told me on a couple of occasions that he was currently buying material from one of our direct competitors," Quate said. "When it became obvious that we were not going to supply material through any verbal communications I had with the highway supervisor, I sent the letter to the commissioners."

Quate pointed out that he waited six months before formally mailing any letters that asked county officials why they were not buying any of his firm's products.

He first mailed a letter to county auditor David Bailey and highway superintendent Basil Shepherd on July 10 and inquired about the situation.

In the letter, he wrote, "Our bid was accepted and it was our understanding that the county would be purchasing their requirements from us. Unfortunately it has come to my attention that purchases have been and are continuing to be made from another vendor."

Quote continued, "The Indiana Code section IC 5-22-17-10 requires that the purchasing agent purchase materials from the lowest responsive bidder. If the county receives written notice of any price changes the purchasing agent is required to notify all other vendors within five business days and ask for a current quote. To date, we have not received any notification of price change."

The oil company representative also wrote: "Our bid was submitted in good faith and complied with all of the requirements set forth in the bid proposal. We are requesting an explanation of why the county is not purchasing from the low bidder. If this situation remains unresolved, we will be forced to take additional action which could result in the retraction of our bid."

Quate noted, "The first letter received no response."

Before he sent a second letter, Quate called auditor Bailey to just make sure that they had received his earlier letter. Bailey told him they had received the letter and would check out the matter and get back with Quate.

Quate alleged that three or four weeks passed with no response, so he sent a second letter Aug. 23 and retracted the earlier bid.

In the Aug. 23 letter to Bailey, Shepherd and each of the county commissioners -- Bart Beard, Kathy Crouch and Larry Hasler -- Quate reiterated that in his view the county was violating Indiana Code by following the practice of purchasing its asphalt emulsion material from only one vendor.

Quate informed the county officials that his firm was withdrawing their 2007 bid.

"We regret having to take this action because, in our opinion, it is not in the best interest of the highway department or the resident taxpayers of Greene County to have only one bidder for liquid asphalt supply. But it appears that there is no intent on your part to abide by The Indiana Code section IC 5-22-17-10 which requires that the purchasing agent purchase materials from the lowest responsive bidder. Therefore, until the Board of Commissioners can assure Marathon Petroleum Company, in writing, of their intent to purchase the county's requirements for asphalt emulsions from the low bidder, we will not submit future bids," he wrote.

Quate says his company traditionally does business with a large number of counties in the state, including Owen, Martin, Orange, Morgan and Putnam in the area, and has never had a similar problem in the nine years he's been associated in this state.

According to Quate, his company could seek legal action against the county, but doesn't plan that route at this point.

"We just don't plan on submitting future bids until and unless we can receive some kind of written guarantee that our bid will be honored," he said. "We'd like some time in the future to have the opportunity to bid in Greene County again, but under the current circumstances, we are not in a position to do that."

Beard said he was aware of the dispute with Marathon Oil, but referred questions to commissioner's attorney Hartman, whom he said was more abreast about what transpired.

Shepherd, when contacted by the Greene County Daily World, called the situation with Marathon's bid a "misunderstanding" and said he thought everything was worked out.

Shepherd acknowledged he had received the two letters from Quate. He said two of the commissioners -- Beard and Hasler -- were aware of the letters along with Hartman.

"I never received any instructions so I just assumed it was taken care of," he stated.

Shepherd said he was unsure exactly how much product had been purchased during 2007 from Asphalt Materials, but he said it is a product that is used frequently.

The highway department superintendent said Asphalt Materials has been a long-time vendor for the county and has given the county very good service.

That's the primary reason he chose to use their services over Marathon.

"Asphalt Materials has been an awful good vendor for years and years -- they are very easy to work with," Shepherd concluded.


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Arcana,

If legal and official Bid Proposals are mis-leading, then local government is mis-leading in it's entirety and the tax-payer (which includes me, of course) are always mis-led.

I have both Bid Proposals here in front of me - unfortunately, only one is in electronic form. I shall have 2007 and 2008 Bid documents posted to my website by the end of next week.

I wish to thank you and your "reliable source" for caring.

-- Posted by Kathy on Fri, Dec 28, 2007, at 6:04 PM

Thank you for clearing that up Mrs. Crouch. I got my info from a reliable source, so either he/she is wrong or your source is misleading. And after I painstakingly deciphered justsoyouknow's message, I must say that most accidents are caused by human error, such as speeding or disobeying traffic laws.

-- Posted by Arcana on Fri, Dec 28, 2007, at 5:00 PM

I care.

What road do you live on and what are the problems?

Feel free to e-mail me from my website.

-- Posted by Kathy on Fri, Dec 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM

WHO CARES WHO GETS THE LOWER BID. I DON'T THINK THEY USE THE ASPHALT STUFF ANYWAY. AS LEAST NOT ON THE ROAD I LIVE ON. NOT EVEN IF SOMEONE GETS KILLED ON THAT ROAD. NO ONE WILL FIX IT.

HEY SAVE TAX PEOPLES MONEY AND DON'T FIX THE ROADS. HA HA SORRY THEY DON'T ALRIGHT. WHAT WAS I THINKING!!!!

-- Posted by justsoyouknow on Fri, Dec 28, 2007, at 2:04 PM

Arcana -

You are incorrect.

My research has found the following:

Quote from Dec. 28 electronic mail communication between myself and Marathon Oil Company:

"Kathy, there is no rent charged on any of our trailers under any circumstances."

Also, the following is an extraction from the 2008 Bid Proposal provided by Marathon Oil Company:

Begin extraction:

IF REQUIRED, DROP TRAILERS WILL BE LEASED TO THE COUNTY AT A RATE OF $1 PER DAY (COST IS INCLUDED IN THE DELIVERED PRICE). CUSTOMER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLYING WITH 40 CFR 112 3(c) SPILL PREVENTION CONTROL AND COUNTERMEASURE (SSCC) REQUIREMENTS WHILE TRAILER IS ON SITE.

End extraction.

Quote from Marathon Oil:

The only time that this would be relevant is if the trailer is dropped at some site in the county and left overnight.

Jobsite deliveries are not effected by this clause. The charge is included in the bid price.

End quote.

Please note that "Jobsite deliveries are not effected by this clause."

Both vendors provided for "Vendor Storage Tanks", County storage tank delivery, Jobsite delivery and escalator clauses.

Visit my website later today for document review if you so choose.

Commissioner Kathy Crouch

-- Posted by Kathy on Fri, Dec 28, 2007, at 9:32 AM

One thing that the Marathon Oil company forgot to tell anyone is this: They charge rent on the tankers that hold the oil. That rent would equal and in some instances, surpass the cost of getting the product from Lawrenceville.

-- Posted by Arcana on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 3:02 PM

whocares:

You are correct.

It is not necessarily the Council's situation, however, because Cumulative Bridge Funds have to be appropriated, the Council did end up appropriating the funds for this Lonetree Rd bridge.

As a member of the Board of Commissioners, I voted Nay to the request for appropriation (which is voted on before it is sent to the Council) and I voted Nay to the execution of the contract(s).

-- Posted by Kathy on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 2:53 PM

It is not the county council it is more the commissioners fault. Atleast we heard from Kathy, but what about the other two that seems to stick together on everything. It seems to me we could have saved a lot of money on a bridge.

This money could have went towards a pay raise to the county workers. I guess they finally got a pay raise after 4 years. A 1,000 dollars may cover 10% of the cost of living.

-- Posted by whocares on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM

The further chronicles about the wacky shenanigans of the Greene County council.

-- Posted by america on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 11:39 AM

The Way I see It is that maybe it's time for these elected officals to stand in line with the outgoing town council.Kathy must have missed the meeting. Or maybe they didn't tell her about that either!! (Hum) I can't wait until election time.

-- Posted by THE WAY I SEE IT ! on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 11:27 AM

Good grief!

Unless I am missing something here, it seems it would have been a pretty simple solution for someone at the County level to respond to the Asphalt company with a letter and a 41 cent stamp.

Communication can smooth a lot of misunderstanding and the lack of it can cause unlimited problems. I am sure we will get some sort of explanation or excuse on why this situation occured, but the bottom line is that it didn't have to get to this point.

County manager, anyone?

-- Posted by old linton native on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 11:15 AM

I would expect all sorts of stuff would come to the surface, if things were stirred a bit in local government.

-- Posted by The Raven on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 10:52 AM

Sounds like we need to replace some people in discussion making of our money!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by whocares on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 10:18 AM

Clarification is necessary:

The July 10 letter was sent to the Board of Commissioners at the courthouse address which is in the care of the County Auditor. The letter copied David Bailey, Auditor and Basil Sheppard, Highway Supervisor.

I personally was never made aware of this original communication.

On the morning of August 20, I received a phone call at my residence from the vendor rep, Walter Quate. He wanted to know if I was aware of the July 10 communication and their concerns? I was not.

At 9:30 that same morning, I received a copy of the July 10 letter via electronic mail from Mr. Quate.

The August 23 Bid-Retraction communication from this vendor was addressed again to the Board of Commissioners at the courthouse address. The auditor and the highway supervisor were again copied. I received a copy of this retraction only via electronic mail from the vendor and a hard-copy mailed to my home address by the vendor. I have never received copy of the communication(s) sent to the Board in care of the Auditor.

The 2008 Bid proposal from this vendor actually noted "NO BID" for each product.

This "NO BID" proposal was the topic of much discussion during the Dec. 18 public commissioner's meeting, during which it was noted that a) I had not been made aware of the communications until the vendor contacted me directly and b) Beard, Hasler and Sheppard admitted that they were fully aware of the vendor's concerns from the initial July 10 communication.

Unfortunately, this occurs much too often. The most recent other incident involves the $92K bridge on Lonetree Road which could have been replaced by a $60K engineered culvert in tandem with county highway labor and equipment. Proposals for the culvert were provided to the county highway supervisor and also made available to members of the Council.

Bridge and culvert money comes from the Cumulative Bridge Fund.

I wish to thank the GCDW for keeping the taxpayers informed.

Commissioner Kathy Crouch

-- Posted by Kathy on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 10:15 AM

This sounds normal for our GC Government. Just how much did the county pay compared to what it would have cost from Marathon?

-- Posted by jandp on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 7:38 AM

I am glad they r a good company to work with, but just how much more money did we spend because they were easy to work with.

Way to save the taxpayers some money Shepherd.

Thanks to Sheriff Pierce he is saving money buying purchasing program cars.

-- Posted by whocares on Thu, Dec 27, 2007, at 7:11 AM


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