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What's With Our Water Woes?
Posted Sunday, January 6, 2008, at 6:43 PM
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Steve, don't you think our water was contaminated?

I always looked up to my big brother and constantly bombarded him with tough questions, because I knew he was always so much smarter than me. I think he tired of it at times.

I have several friends who drink bottled water and they do so for a variety of reasons. Some say that it tastes better and there is no way for me to dispute that argument. There are a few that drink it as a healthier alternative to other bottled drinks and I won't try to address that either. Yet still others say that it has a higher purity than tap water and with that point of contention, I have some disagreement. I have never been an alarmist, nor am I an advocate for the use of one source of water over another, but I do wish that my friends would better educate themselves on the purity standards of bottled water versus tap water. I really hate to see people paying more for water per volume than they do for gasoline, just because they think it is higher quality water.

I spent a period of time in my life working with water treatment in the oil fields of west Texas and later in the Midwest pulp and paper industry. By no means do I consider myself a water treatment expert, but I have tried to remain a little knowledgeable on the subject over the years. I do know that all of our water, whether it be bottled or tap, originates from similar places, which include sources such as lakes, rivers and underground aquifers. The taste and quality of any water depends on the source, the quality of the water at the source and the subsequent treatment of the water prior to consumption.

If we lived in a pure environment, that is, without the harmful effects from us humans, there is no doubt that our sources would be much cleaner. However, that is impossible, so we have to deal with our own self inflicted pollutants along with the naturally occurring (non-human initiated) contaminants. How do we treat these products that may be harmful to our bodies as a result of consumption? We treat them with various separation and degradation techniques that include both chemical and mechanical processes. These processes are really too numerous to mention in a short blog article such as this, but lets' just say that the capabilities to adequately treat water for consumption are available.

Now that we agree that treatment methods exist, we should look at how they are regulated and enforced. The EPA and the Indiana Department of Environmental Management (IDEM) have promulgated standards for public drinking water and they are the enforcement agencies. However, bottled water is regulated as a packaged food and must meet the requirements established by the Food and Drug Administration, if the water is sold across State lines. Water that is bottled and sold within one state is not regulated by the FDA; it is up to the individual States to regulate these processes and provide for enforcement.

If you want to know the quality of your tap water, you can request a copy of the test results, which are included in the supplier's annual report on water quality. If you are concerned about the quality of your bottled water, you can either trust the label on the bottle or contact the producer and ask how it is treated and to what standards.

Also while we are on the subject of bottled water, here are some notes from the National Resources Defense Council (NRDC):

"The production of the plastic for water bottles produces large amounts of toxic chemicals, as well as about 800,000 tons of greenhouse gases per year (the amount produced by 8 power plants, or 140,000 cars), and most water bottles are never recycled (only about 13% of water bottles are recycled by being made into other materials)."

"U.S. consumers use 50 billion plastic water bottles every year; globally we use about 150 billion." Considering the previous statement and some simple Old Simmons mathematics, that would mean 43.5 billion plastic water bottles in the U.S. end up somewhere else, like landfills and along side our highways.

"It takes 26 times more water to make the plastic bottle than the bottle contains." I'm sure that the majority of that water is recycled, but I wonder at what cost to the consumer and to the environment.

Also, if you have time and are so inclined, you might want to visit this web site http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/bw/bw... and read some more interesting information from a four year study of bottled water. There is even a summary in Spanish (en Espanol). Buena suerte.


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Nah, reread that post, I got the boy band question right, that's when my companions, some of whom were my own sweet children, began to criticize me, with an extremely high degree of insensitivity, for even knowing N'Sync. It was at that time that I decided, sometimes it is best to provide some erroneous responses just so they don't know for sure how much the old man really knows. Had they been raised to be a little more sensitive to the feelings of the elderly, I wouldn't have had to choose this path of fallaciouness.

-- Posted by simmons on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 1:13 PM

Ol Simmons, I once heard you were "the man" among men, and women at Trivial Pursuit. From History, Geography, Sport, Entertainment, etc...And your telling me that you missed a boy band question on purpose. If the question involved the Beatles, Im betting that you would have nailed that one.

-- Posted by Mr. Robato on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 10:50 AM

You are correct Mr. Robato, with your insightful comment concerning the successive operational capabilites of my brain and mouth. I'll have you know, however, that I did answer an N'Sync question one time and was chastised for days. Since that time, I have missed just a few questions on purpose, just to confuse my supercritical opponents.

-- Posted by simmons on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 10:17 AM

Wiglund, There is no way possible that his brain got ahead of his mouth...You know Ol Simmons better than that.

-- Posted by Mr. Robato on Fri, Jan 11, 2008, at 6:54 AM

Hey Virginia is for lovers. Is that the only trivial pursuit question that Ol Simmons has ever missed?

Wiglund thinks that, in a senior moment, that Ol Simmons cerebrum got a little ahead of his mouth. Doesn't the brain run the cardio stuff?

-- Posted by Wiglund on Thu, Jan 10, 2008, at 8:05 PM

Evidently, if I answered cerebral-pulmonary resuscitation, I swallowed too much contaminated water at West Point.

I am a poor person to get health advice from and I seldom offer any advice, but I will offer this piece for your consideration: If you ever have a daughter who is disrespectful, make sure that you spend her inheritance.

-- Posted by simmons on Thu, Jan 10, 2008, at 7:08 PM

Ol simmons once answered, "cerebral-pulmonary resuscitation!" to the trivial pursuit question, "What does CPR stand for?" Probably not the guy to get health advice from.

-- Posted by virginia is for lovers on Thu, Jan 10, 2008, at 3:39 PM

Were you at West Point when you received your Phd in water contamination???

-- Posted by Mr. Robato on Wed, Jan 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM

Simmons, I'm very health concious. If garden hoses and plastic bottles are bad for our health and environment, I'm feeling forced to drink from a can or a brown bottle. Any thoughts? Health concerns?

-- Posted by Frankly Speaking on Wed, Jan 9, 2008, at 1:02 PM

Penn and Tellar did a piece on this subject. It was very funny as well...

-- Posted by america on Tue, Jan 8, 2008, at 2:20 PM

Quite a frank statement there Rambler, but I'll capitulate since you were an eyewitness to his dogged pursuit of the discounted dog. You saw Wigs as he scurried? The first thought that goes through my mind is you and Old Jack standing and yelling, "I don't believe what I just saw."

-- Posted by simmons on Tue, Jan 8, 2008, at 11:35 AM

No simmons you are wrong, I saw him sitting in that shiny Chevrolet listening to the game on the radio. Then the ticket booth went down and he scurried (yes, i said scurried)for the door. Looked like he was only there for the now cold 1/2 price hot dogs though, a man after my own heart.

Dodger fans, although not known for their sensibility otherwise, are renowned for their frankfurter expertise. The Dodger Dog is world famous as the preeminent wiener of the baseball world, hard words for me a Giant fan to spit out, but true. Though their middle infield may be ham handed, their frank selection is kosher and delicious. A perfect 20 minute snack for the late arriving early leaving "fans". I think the commemorative napkins even had Tommy Lasordas likeness imprinted on them, yes it was a large napkin.

So for this i must stand up for my wiglund friend, he was only their as a conoisseur of the dog. He only realized their was a basketball game going on when the loud horn sounded. He thought he had found paradise, 1/2 price dogs and free popcorn, thats our wiggy.

By the way its only 39 days til they report for spring training. Ol' Joe Hart is probably biting at the bit with that stacked roster they loaded up in Detroit. On opening day i hope i can toast ol' Wiglund and Joe with a frankfurter, and spin our hopes for a magical summer, I'll buy.

-- Posted by midnightrambler on Tue, Jan 8, 2008, at 2:28 AM

Mr. Robato, I'm afraid that Wigs is often late to events, but I don't think it has to do with the tightness of his wallet anymore. I understand that he suffered through that illness for quite some time, however he has been cured by some folks at The Chevrolet Institute. The cause of his tendency to lag behind and have significant periods of tardiness has been diagnosed as a rare old southern plantation malady that one can only assimilate to a combination of periodic memory flashbacks and the mental infirmity of old age. I'm sure he had every intention of being at that ballgame on time.

-- Posted by simmons on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 4:28 PM

Wigs, that is funny. I don't think you have any worries about the Andy Rooney disease, but it is a wonder you didn't ingest enough microbial pathogens to kill you. I've known some folks who have come down with hepatitis, dysentery and leptospirosis from swimming in contaminated water, but the thought of you lapping up water from puddles and creeks and not being infected is beyond me. You know, now that I think about it, there are folks with Reiter's Syndrome, who have irritated eyes and painful joints as a result of shigellosis and I think folks with acute leptospirosis have had problems with severe hair loss. You may be seeing the long term effects of your earlier poor drinking habits. I think you had better go have a check-up with the Doc as soon as possible.

-- Posted by simmons on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 4:09 PM

I still prefer the garden hose myself...After reading Wiglund's post about his family not being able to afford a garden hose, I realized that tightness in the wallet is passed down through the genes. I happened to see Wiglund at a high school basketball game on Friday, and he appeared after halftime, so he didnt have to pay.

-- Posted by Mr. Robato on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 6:54 AM

Here's the solution and it's bottled right here is good ol' Greene County-

Walnut Grove Spring Water! Bottled in Glass with the old-fashioned wire stopper and it tastes FANTASTIC!

Here's their web address:

walnutgrovespring.com

-- Posted by Mike47424 on Mon, Jan 7, 2008, at 4:35 AM

Its safe to say I drank from the garden hose many atime myself.

I heard a good one today - China actually put lead in the toys on purpose so our children would not be as sharp... Made sense to me!

OH and my vote goes to bring back the glass bottles!

-- Posted by silerCityDude on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 9:55 PM

As a child Wiglund's family could not afford a garden hose. He drank out of puddles, creeks and those things you had to pump by hand.

Am I safe or will I also start looking and sounding like Andy Rooney?

-- Posted by Wiglund on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 9:32 PM

This is from testing done by Consumer Reports:

"We'd answer that question by saying it's OK to drink from a hose only if it's labeled safe or if you flush it first. Otherwise, the water standing inside may contain worrisome amounts of lead and other chemicals that leach from the hose itself. Many hoses are made of polyvinyl chloride, which uses lead as a stabilizer."

It goes on to say:

"However, even extremely low levels of lead may cause health problems. A recent study reported in The New England Journal of Medicine suggests that lead levels in the blood even lower than the current definition of toxicity may adversely affect a child's IQ."

I think it is intuitively obvious to the casual observer that Ol' Simmons may have drank too much from the garden hose as a child.

That tie really made you look more distinguished and scholarly.

-- Posted by simmons on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 7:54 PM

I think I probably was smarter than you when that picture was taken, but you've long since passed me by. I just wish I still had that tie. Have there been any studies on the effects on the brain of drinking straight from a garden hose? I heard a rumor that it makes you start sounding and looking a little like Andy Rooney.

-- Posted by Chris&Jeremy'sDad on Sun, Jan 6, 2008, at 7:29 PM


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