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Posted Thursday, May 8, 2008, at 11:25 AM
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This blog post is in response to Otis J. Russell's editorial letter published the other day. http://gcdailyworld.com/story/1399627.html

I've never considered myself a "politically appointed friend," but since I serve on the I-69 Planning Grant Committee, I thought I should respond.

I actually like and agree with Mr. Russell's thoughts on non-enforcement of what's "on the books" right now. It needs to be. That would take care of a lot of issues. The money referenced, however, is a completely different topic. There's a lot happening planning-wise in Greene County, so let me set some of the facts straight.

In short, Mr. Russell got a few facts straight, but not many. He's confusing several topics, groups, grant money, and people into a completely different end story, filled with conspiracy theory and waste.

For one, I don't pretend to speak for Ms. Bethell's economic development office, but I'd venture a guess that the $120,000 he's referring to was mostly spent on salaries and operating expenses for this non-profit corporation. You do have to pay people, buy computers and office supplies, pay the telephone bill, and buy a few lunches here-and-there, among many other expenses, but I'll leave the details to those who know the actual details. I don't think it's accurate to say $120,000 was squandered, but rather used to pay people, who fulfill a role and in turn spend money in this community just like you and I, as well as pay for various services, equipment, and supplies that her office requires.

Two, the $150,000 received from the INDOT grant (The I-69 Planning Grant) would have been money never seen by this area if it wasn't applied for. Beyond that, three local governments -- Greene County, the City of Linton, and the Town of Bloomfield -- decided to cooperate and work together. For that cooperation, this area received $30,000 more -- or a $10,000 "bonus" per local government unit -- than it would have received if we had all applied separately.

This money is being spent on four areas of planning: (1.) corridor planning, (2.) planning for tourism, (3.) a comprehensive plan for Bloomfield, and (4.) a comprehensive plan for Greene County. To expand on that:

(1.) The corridor plan is a non-negotiable piece of this grant. If INDOT is going to give us money as part of the I-69 planning process, they want to know how it will affect our local roadways, especially if we want more than just one exit to Crane. There's no disputing a new, major interstate highway is going to affect traffic flow. If you disagree, there some guys with white coats here to see you and escort you to a nice, comfy, padded room.

I'll add here that the interstate is a "done deal," so I'm not sure why people continue to fight it, write letters to the editor, and gripe every chance they get. Rather, at this point, we should be planning on how best to embrace it, maintain our rural lifestyle with it, and plan for the inevitable growth just off the exit(s) -- and there will be something pop up at that exit, whether "we" plan for it or not. The question is -- what do you want popping up at the exit to welcome visitors to Greene County? Or put differently, what do you want the first impression to be of our community?

So, even though this new patch of asphalt makes your blood boil for whatever reason, just go with the old adage, "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." because this new "Super Highway" will connect Canada to Mexico, and no one in Greene County, Indiana is going to stop that train. Those are just the harsh facts, so don't kill the messenger here. These monies are being spent to plan for the effects of the highway, not the interstate itself. That's already been done.

(2.) Tourism. The Goosepond is the largest wetlands area in the United States. Now, having been on several family vacations visiting the largest ball of twine, a palace made of corn, and various dead guys' homes elsewhere in the United States, I'm here to tell you that the single-largest wetlands in the U.S. is a really big deal. Those who watch birds, or "birders" as they are known, are typically a very affluent group of people. Put frankly, many of these people drop a lot of money on this sport -- and wherever they happen to be at watching birds -- so why not drop it in Greene County?

In short, if the community thinks this will be a huge deal, embraces it, and wants to profit from it, it'll happen. Or, if the community decides it's nothing but a big mosquito pit, does nothing, and squanders this opportunity, a much different result will happen too. Whether you think it's going to fly or not, you'll be right. Which do you want? If we don't embrace this, though, we are the biggest fools in history.

I've always been amazed at the places I've have been and people there know where Linton, Indiana is because of its great fishing. Sometimes this has been in northern Indiana or even out of state. So, it seems we really need to capitalize more on this.

Let's not forget about all of the money that hunters can spend in this area. We can capture a lot of dollars in our community, if it's organized correctly.

But there are more attractions than that in Greene County, attractions like the Viaduct, which is one of the longest rails in the air still existing in the nation. If we don't embrace it and make something more out of it than a graffiti mess, who is?

(3 & 4.) Comprehensive plans for Bloomfield and Greene County just make sense. They are assessments of where we are now and a set of plans for the future. If we aren't planning for our future then we're just planning to fail, as the old adage does. Having been through the comprehensive planning process in Linton, I think it will be a real eye-opening experience, one that will assemble more information in one place than has ever been assembled before.

The plans are -- well -- comprehensive. So, for example, the plans will look at estimated future population growth to see if our utility systems are adequate. As another example, it will assess our needs for various recreational facilities based on population. It will look at our housing needs too. Simply, it will assemble a lot of information about the community in one report and make several recommendations of all types. If you haven't seen the plan prepared for Linton, you should go to City Hall and look through a copy.

When your community has a comprehensive plan, the community is given more points in the scoring system used for awarding government grants. So, having a comprehensive plan is a plan within itself, a plan to get more grant money into this area.

Here's the best part of all of this:

Who's paying for all of this planning? The State of Indiana through INDOT. What Mr. Russell and many folks don't understand is that this is a zero sum game. If we don't apply for it, it will be spent elsewhere in the State.

Anyone who has been around me lately knows how I've said this about other grants that our communities have failed to apply for. http://gcdailyworld.com/blogs/chriswathen/entry/17...

If we fail to apply, it's a guaranteed "NO" and some other community gets the money. If we apply and don't get it, at least we tried. In this case, we tried and won… and even got a bonus for working together. So, it's not about "saving tax money," but about getting our fair share. We're paying in taxes to the State, whether we get any of it back or not, so let's get some of it back!

As for people on the committees now and in the future, there have been many requests sent out to different members of the various communities within our county, which is an attempt to represent not only different areas, but different groups, occupations, and opinions. Some people have accepted, while some have not.

If anyone would like to help -- or even serve -- on many of the committees forming, I'd urge you to contact the Greene County Economic Development Corporation. Their office is located on the second floor of the Mainsource Bank building in front of Wal-Mart in Linton. Their phone number is 847-4500.

Mr. Russell, if you feel so strongly about our community, are you willing to serve? That's code for you're invited to the meetings too.


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I have one more parting comment on the comprehensive planning process. When anyone talks of this process they always refer to all the insightful information gained and how helpful it all will be to everyone in the county so that we will understand what we need to do in the future. They say we can affect and direct the future now that they know all these things. The fact is though, that all of this information is freely available on the Internet from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Bureau of the Census and many other sources to numerous to mention in addition to the interviewing of knowledgeable people for information desired on any topic. A half dozen-freshman college students majoring in government could do this as a project in 6 months without spending a dime and have the same information this plan will provide.

The reason for a comprehensive plan has to do with its purpose, not its content. A comprehensive plan is the legally required foundation for instituting controls of private property. The reason we have a professional consultant is to slice and dice up the county in an acceptable manner preparing it for controls because no one locally knows enough to do it, including the GCEDC. The plan is like a nail; and land use controls/zoning is the hammer. You will not have one without the other. All of this is the same nonsense peddled here in the 1970s by the same type of fringe group of people with utopian ideas and whose only objective is to control other people and their property to pursue their unattainable visions and dreams. A now older and much wiser generation, fortunately, also had wise elected officials at the time and rejected this for what it was then and what it still is today. Sadly though, our elected leaders today are the ones not only allowing this to be brought up again but funding this organization and backing their activities, and they seem to be in lock step with the fringe advocates at the GCEDC. Also, unfortunately, many of us, especially those younger and less experienced love the sound of it all, and say "prosperity", and "jobs"; let's reach out a grab them it as if they were apples they could pick from a tree. It seems every generation must learn the same lessons over and over again.

The Greene County Economic Development Corporation has only talked about a six things in the last 18 months.

a. Westgate

b. Goose Pond

c. Zoning, zoning, zoning, and zoning again

Beware of what is coming. Put aside all of the innocuous and innocent sounding facts, figures, and platitudes. The buzzards overhead are not there to fan us with fresh air. Zoning and/or land use management (zoning lite) absolutely will be proposed and actively pursued following planning completion. All of the meetings they hold, no matter how many people show up and object, will be to no avail as it has not mattered in any other county victimized by these kinds of people. They know better than you what your land is good for. Greene County citizens must decide whether to bend over and take it, or stand up and fight it. You positively will have to make that decision, so get ready.

All of the counties around us who have been victimized by this poison pill cry out in unison to you, "been there', "done that". Just as surely as daylight follows dawn, the buzzards will descend to claim their prize, namely, many of your freedoms and rights. Guaranteed! Join those of us who are determined to fight for our rights. You parents left you a free Greene County; so in honor of our parents, let's leave it that way to our children as it was left to us.

Otis J. Russell, Switz City

-- Posted by orussell on Thu, May 29, 2008, at 1:20 PM

Sorry for all of the words. Looking back, I took on a whole bunch of current issues, didn't I?

I still respectfully disagree and hold that planning for the future, such as with the proposed Comprehensive Plans, is a necessity.

I think Mr. Russell brings up a very good point, though, namely not blindly accepting either side of a situation but making an informed decision after listening to the various opinions and sides to a situation, no matter what the situation may be. I think what most people will find is that there's not so much one side or the other, but a whole lot of area in between.

Comprehensive Plans encompass much, much more than just proposed land use controls or zoning. They are, as I said before, "comprehensive" and look at estimated population changes, infrastructure and recreational needs, the state of housing, as well as many other issues and aspects. They are also needed to successfully compete with other communities for grant money because they provide extra "points" that give an edge to communities that have one.

With that, I would encourage people to attend the upcoming public meetings and volunteer for the various committees being formed. Public input is definitely needed when community projects are pursued. Lots of people must do that, and the more the better, as one person may have some valid input or concerns that others haven't thought of before. We can't leave it up to this office or that office to do the work of everyone. In fact, a lot of what I was saying in my original post was that we need to help ourselves and not rely on this or that person, elected official, or group to solve all of our woes while we just sit back.

I'd also leave you with this last thought:

Not planning because you think everything is okay the way it is now is making the assumption that things will continue that way, but will they? So, planning can be as much about "maintaining" as it is "changing" things.

-- Posted by chriswathen on Tue, May 27, 2008, at 11:16 AM

In responding to Mr. Wathen let me say that I was allowed only 600 words to make a point in a short Letter to the Editor and he used 1450 words to respond. I feel a little overwhelmed, but I'll try not to exceed him. Let's begin with the Greene County Economic Development Corporation, formed in 1989 to advance the economic interests of the county. All money spent in support of this organization ($120,000 this year) is in support of its present activities. Its purpose and activities have been perverted by its present leadership since its founding from economic development issues to imposing land use controls/zoning anywhere or everywhere in the county they may choose. The distinction between land use controls and zoning is that one is bad and the other is worse. Land use controls/zoning has nothing to do with economic growth or jobs as can be plainly seen in our surrounding counties who have adopted it and should not be pursued by GCEDC in the name of development. This is the reason why the I-69 grant money is being used for the Goose Pond, Bloomfield, and the County Comprehensive Plan, none of which have anything to do with I-69 as the grant money was originally intended to be for. These plans, once adopted by the county, will provide the foundation for the imposition of zoning or land use management anywhere in the county, exactly as was intended and promoted by the GCEDC for the last 18 months. This is not a "conspiracy" as Mr. Wathen suggests, but rather a restatement of exactly what the GCEDC has been proposing and promoting since its present leadership has been in place and should come as no surprise to anyone. To those of you who think you are involved in this process, don't you know when you are being used? Do you think they hired a professional consultant because they needed your advice? Don't you know your there to give the appearance of public participation and support? Wake up folks, smell the flowers, the planning is already done.

As to I-69 and its exits, Terre Haute (4 or more times the size of Linton), has only 3 exits from I-70 and 2 of them are State or US Highways. How many exits do you think a few miles of cornfield in Greene County will get in a county where they are not even willing to pay for their own planning, let alone a portion of the costs of additional road construction for exits? Mr. Wathen obviously needs to get out of Greene County more often and look around. To the residents along I-69, watch out; the state will take part of your land for the road and the county will try to take control of the rest of it with zoning, if you let it pass, and you can rest assured that it will be proposed. After all, the proponents of zoning know much better than you how your own land should be used, just ask them, they'll tell you. I-69 will be of benefit to the county and the whole area, but the landowners and business interests along I-69 can do without meddling county officials and their cronies trying to tell them what to do. The fact that an Interstate is being built in no way necessitates land use controls. There are hundreds of counties throughout the US, especially rural ones, with Interstates and highways doing just fine without zoning.

Indiana law prescribes that land use/controls/zoning must be preceded by planning. If any of you think that step# 1 is not followed by step# 2, I have a bridge you may be interested in purchasing. And though some folks have little or no regard for their own freedom and rights, I can assure you that most others do and don't want to be subjugated along with those gullible enough to ask for it. To those who believe the rosy pictures of economic benefits, ask those counties who took hook, line, and sinker the same bait that you are now nibbling at. To learn more about planning and zoning, ask it's victims, not it's advocates. Ask the people in Owen, Pike, Daviess, Knox counties, or even the city of Sullivan, which recently repealed their zoning mistake. They will not hesitate or stutter when they tell you what a monumental mess it all is. Many hundreds of counties in all 50 States are having tough economic times these days and it's been going on for 25 or more years. If you really think the GCEDC has the cure and all the rest of the country hasn't found it, P.T. Barnum would be very proud of you. Think about it.

Otis J. Russell, Switz City

-- Posted by orussell on Sun, May 25, 2008, at 11:30 AM

Very nicely said Chris! I, for one, am looking forward to the results of the countywide planning process. I would encourage Mr. Russell to do some reading on the planning process and listen to some of those already involved. There's always room at the table for a committed volunteer! To paraphrase Mr. Frost, good planning makes good neighbors.

-- Posted by allonecounty on Thu, May 8, 2008, at 11:59 PM

I can not wait for the interstate. bring on progress!!!

-- Posted by america on Thu, May 8, 2008, at 1:33 PM

Well put Chris. I will still have to see some more effort being put into getting the Goose Pond ready though before I will start to back that mosquito pit.

-- Posted by junkmail on Thu, May 8, 2008, at 12:59 PM


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