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Let our elected officials know how you feel about smoking
Posted Friday, December 7, 2007, at 2:03 PM
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I'm not for sure if I want to write about this topic or not, because it's such a hot button these days in Greene County. Too many times people get the wrong idea and run with it, no matter what is written.

Too many people try to read between the lines.

The topic? Smoking.

Should people be allowed to smoke in public places, including restaurants, department stores, antique shops, and any other place of business in Greene County?

I'm not a smoker. Never have been, and hopefully never will be.

My mom and dad both smoked (my mom quit after her stroke, and she has since passed, and my dad quit after his heart attack and currently doesn't smoke). I have friends who smoke. I have co-workers who smoke. I know lots of people who smoke.

A former co-worker's mom would go for chemo, and then go straight outside the hospital to have a smoke. My friend had a hard time accepting that, and I fully understand.

There's a warning right there on the package screaming that it's bad for your health. So why purposely do something that's bad for your health, and bad for others who happen to be around?

The debate, at least to me, seems pretty cut and dry.

If we're going to throw a mother in jail for using meth or any other drug while she's pregnant, then why not throw a parent in jail if they smoke around their children? If they're caught in a car smoking with children inside (and it doesn't matter if a window is rolled down), then take 'em to jail.

But if our lawmakers aren't willing to get tough, then let the smokers smoke. It's not against the law.

Smokers will say it's their "right" to smoke. It's also their "right" to kill themselves. But if they choose to kill themselves in a public place, and hurt others at the same time, then that's wrong.

There are warnings on most all foods telling us the amount of fat grams and calories, but there are lots of over-weight people in the U.S. Some recent statistics that were released earlier this week state that 40 percent of all U.S. girls (under 18) are overweight, and 30 percent of the boys are the same.

Where's the movement to get Twinkies (that golden sponge cake with creamy filling!) taken off the shelves? What about soft drinks?

There are lots of things that have the potential to kill us, but we shouldn't take others with us in the process. That's taking personal choice out of the equation.

If someone wants to smoke, then let them smoke. But I don't have to be in the same restaurant, department store, or any other place of business with them.

The people who will make the final decision about canning the smoke-free movement in Greene County or will make it a reality are our elected officials.

Let them know how you feel. Demand a public debate, and make it a healthy debate.


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Sorry Chris but from my point of view this is a freedoms issue. I will always maintain that it is up to the owner of a particular place of business as to allow smoking or not. As none of us are required to dine in a restaurant or drink in a bar and we have no right to expect to be protected from a perfectly legal product while engaging in these activities. Whats next, atheists demanding their right to not have to hear someone saying grace at a nearby table? Health conscious persons demanding to be protected from high fat or salt content in restaurant foods? The list never ends, how long before the government tells you what you can include in the paper? Where does it end?

-- Posted by keninman on Sat, Dec 8, 2007, at 8:09 AM
Chris Pruett's response:
Ken,

Thanks for commenting. You're right, it is a freedoms issue. But our lawmakers take some freedoms from us from time to time, and we must live with it ... or we can go somewhere else. I would hope there never comes a day when government becomes TOO BIG.

What would happen if a drunk (who got drunk at that business) got up at a restaurant, and somehow killed someone sitting nearby? That may seem way out there, but it could happen.

I don't have the answer to this smoking vs. smoke-free issue. As I stated in my blog, I'm not a smoker. But I would like to see something done, one way or another.

That's why I said it's up to our local elected officials to make the decision, and we must push for action.

Thanks again Ken for reading!

Chris

Mr. Pruett, I have to agree with Ken and most other people against the proposed ban. It is a very big freedom issue. I can refrain from smoking in public places, but it should be a business owner's decision, not a government one. People are allowing the government more and more control over our lives every day.

We read stories of laws that would make spanking your child illegal. I lobbied against a law several years ago that would have made "causing your child emotional distress" illegal, which really boiled down to, if you yelled at your child/teenager, for any reason, and they got upset, you could lose your kids and go to jail for "abuse".

We as Americans must prevent our government from becoming 'too big', any issue that takes away the power of choice or freedom of any kind from the people should be examined thoroughly and protested if necessary. It is our job as Americans to do so.

On the smoking issue, businesses already have the choice of allowing or prohibiting it and the patrons have the choice of frequenting a business or going elsewhere. I don't believe anything else needs to be done by the government. Let the people decide.

-- Posted by Renee71 on Mon, Dec 10, 2007, at 4:59 AM

Mega Dittos to Ken and Renee. The issue is that simple.

-- Posted by hilljak on Mon, Dec 10, 2007, at 4:45 PM

http://www.rwjf.org/about/annualreportli...

Risa Lavizzo-Mourey, M.D., M.B.A.

President and Chief Executive Officer

An answer to your question: Where's the movement to get Twinkies taken off the shelves and what about coke?

Nancy Cummings/Opinion Page/12-5-07/ Quote-"In an ideal world there would be 100 percent voluntary compliance. But, because we do not live in an ideal world, policies are necessary". Those words sounded familiar and since you expressed concern about Twinkies and cokes: I thought you should be fore-warned. These people are well funded, organized, and know how to go about getting what they want. Especially if you don't agree with them! I would have thought from Germany in the 1930's, people would know better than to mess with social engineering. No matter how well intentioned, it's a slippery slope. There is now an entire generation that was raised with this type of mindset. They leave their critical thinking at the door and believe anything that has statistics attached to it. So, here are my three questions. Can you buy a twinke and coke at the local high school for lunch: if that's what you want? Is this foundation connected to the Johnson & Johnson Company that makes millions selling products to stop smoking? And as a reporter, can you get people to stop saying ban and policies, when they are talking about creating a LAW? Stop sugar coating it! Bans and policies can be ignored. A LAW carries punitive consequences.

Partial reprint of the

2006 Annual Report

We Will Reverse the Epidemic of Childhood Obesity

Unless we turn back the epidemic of obesity at its point of origin--among our children--our society will pay a terrible human and financial price for as far out into the future as we can see.

As a result, the United States is on the threshold of powerful and necessary social change propelled by our collective instinct to survive. This is not new to Americans. We've stood here before and we've changed before--and in ways that look like they will be sustained.

In 1965, 43 percent of us smoked cigarettes.17

Today only 20.9 percent of us light up.18

In 1982, drunk drivers killed about 22,000 people.

In 2005, the toll had fallen to just over 12,000.19

In 1983, only 24 percent of us used seatbelts.20

Today 82 percent of us buckle up.21

These statistics tell a story of radical transformations in individual behavior that were impossible to achieve without simultaneous policy, social and cultural change. The lives saved are countless and the misery avoided is incalculable, all because the country chose to change to survive.

Now it is time to do it again, and the stakes are even higher.

When David Satcher was Surgeon General, he said, "Overweight and obesity may soon cause as much preventable disease and death as cigarette smoking."22

A controversial prophesy, certainly, but one America cannot afford to ignore. The growing body of evidence is too powerful. Accordingly, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation is taking action.

We believe the significant threat calls for a substantial investment that will help set the national agenda for change and will provoke significant increases in other private and public investment.

So the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation will spend $500 million over the next five years to help reverse the epidemic of childhood obesity.

We must be bold enough to expect permanent, sustainable results by 2015, with benefits to the population, health care and the economy extending deep into this century.

Our approach is direct, practical and strong:

* First, make the case--with solid research and objective evidence--for the problem, what works to roll it back and what doesn't. We will need as much effort on the community level as on the policy and industry level.

* Second, test and retest the best approaches, then widely install the most promising models as a firewall against the epidemic's further spread. A pile of bricks does not equal a wall. So, this will require that each of the most important approaches be integrated to have the full effect.

* Third, educate and motivate our leaders and invest in advocacy to foster change.

And build a resource base big enough to match the enormity of the problem. How will we know it is working? We'll know when the evidence tells us so. Next to adequate and sustained funding for programs that work, it is evidence we need more than anything else, evidence that establishes:

* How to get kids to eat well and physically move more;

* What school and family actions work best;

* That industry's interest in healthier lifestyles and eating habits is sincere and produces innovations that work; and

* That government "gets it," with realistic and responsive policies and budgets.

Our commitment is ambitious. With it comes risk and resistance. But it is a commitment the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was invented to make. Our experience and the evidence command us to make it now. As we progress, it is essential that we understand the epidemic itself and its effect on each of us and on all of us.

I guess [that] I have four questions. Does any of this sound familiar?

-- Posted by pluto'saplanet on Fri, Dec 14, 2007, at 8:06 AM


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