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If you can, help others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them
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The following are some of my favorite quotes: * Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -- Dr. Seuss * It is a terrible thing to see and have no vision. -- Helen Keller * What we think, we become. -- Buddha * Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. -- Jesus Christ * Patience is the companion of wisdom. -- Saint Augustine * Your daily life is your temple and your religion. When you enter into it take with you your all. -- Kahlil Gibran * To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also dream; not only plan, but also believe. -- Anatole France * Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love. -- Mahatma Gandhi * Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. -- Albert Einstein * I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong. -- John Lennon * If you can, help others; if you cannot do that, at least do not harm them. -- Dalai Lama * Prayer is not asking. It is a longing of the soul. It is daily admission of one's weakness. It is better in prayer to have a heart without words than words without a heart. -- Mahatma Gandhi * Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe * Always do what you are afraid to do. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Timberly is a staff writer at the Greene County Daily World. She can be reached by e-mail at tferree@gcdailyworld.com or by phone at 1-800-947-4487 or (812) 847-4487. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Just a girl.
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"Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you got". - Garth Brooks
Do, or do not. There is no try. -Yoda
True politeness costs nothing, but yields the largest interest and profit. - unknown
What a team...a cripple, a woman, a drunk and a blind guy. - Ol' Simmons
I understand that you are trying to write a feel-good, thought provoking article.
I have tried quoting some of the same people that you do, but have been deleted so I guess that won't work.
I just need to say I am disturbed that you put John Lennon, the dope-head-hippie, in the same catagory as Jesus Christ.
Lennon was a talented song writer but he couldn't put together a coherant sentance if he wanted to. I think the LSD must have given him his visions. He was definitely right; that it is the translation of man that has gone wrong ever since the origional text of the Bible. Now, new versions are sold for profit either in book sales or to promote changing doctrine.
By Lennon saying that Jesus, Mohammad and Budda are the same in all of us is true heresy. It just goes to show you how misled society is when equating God with man.
Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one. ~Abbott Joseph Liebling
"Freedom of the Press", always quoted by this publication. Freedom of it's readers, they show none. Timothy E. Jones.
Bloom where you are planted...plant where you can bloom. ~ Blueyedame
"The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman made from a rib was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.."
I ain't buying it......
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone ever discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-- Douglas Adams
"If you can, publish something original and interesting. If you cannot do that, pick some of Bartlett's familiar quotations, publish them in your column and keep dreaming that maybe someday you WILL have something of some substance whatsoever to share with others." --Lorhagatha
I'm with you Cow Rancher...the Bible should only be available in the original King James English just like Jesus wrote it in!
Let's see...believe Evolouie or believe God...
I think I'll choose God.
You state the same drivel on your web page. Your description of athiesm is the same as all agnostics. Make sure you throw in "mystic" or "scheme" next time along with cosmic, magical, telepathy and evil force. I believe you are trying to describe faith. Either you have faith or you don't. To try and quantify eternity just won't cut it...you must have faith. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1
Perhaps you understand both Hebrew and Greek. I don't, so I read the closest thing to the original, the textus receptus in English. The same language that should be the official language of America.
Check it out. It's a good book!
I like the NIV version which gives some good references to the Hebrew & Greek. I'm a heathen though because I read the Vedas, the Koran, and Buddhist scriptures.
When I travel internationally I love talking to people about their religion and visiting their religious sites. In doing so, I've found that to those people their religions are as true to them as our religions are to us here in the U.S. In several countries, I've found followers of other religions as exempliary examples of how to be compassionate and pious.
Horrorwriter, Jesus did not write the bible and it wasn't in English. Maybe if you ever really read any of it you would know this.
I think it's because horrorwriter has read the Bible that he/she knows this.
I think it's a bunch of poppycock, myself. Give me John Lennon anyday.
Thanks notgreenenative...I was being sarcastic. I think the Historical-Critical method of Bible intrepetation is best. In other words, the more we can know about the original letters and their authors the better we can understand the Bible.
For that matter, I like the historical-critical method is good for understanding a lot of historical documents--not just the letters of the Bible.
I'm with you, sarah m
Just for the record...I'd take Stephen King any day over John Lennon. I think King has a much more true outlook on what the world is like!
Or combine the two, horrorwriter. Imagine all the people...with cabin fever. Heeeeeeere's Johnny!
OK Cow Rancher,
You posted ""Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1"
So on that note I'll post this one with a little paraphrasing of my own:
"Ever notice how evidence of things not seen, looks just like evidence of things that do not exist"
LOL, just_a_girl and Evolouie
Just_a_girl: that's hilarious! Okay...I really like it....Life according to Johnnie and Stevie!
Nice. It's an AA meeting.
Agnostics Anonymous
Hello. My name is "just_a_girl" and I am not an agnostic/atheist.
I was just trying to be humorous. A few people apparently got what I was shooting for. Things don't have to be serious and matter of fact all the time. It gives you premature wrinkles.
This concludes my meeting. Hope to see you all next week. ;)
Well said "just_a_girl". I think The Joker summed it up best when he said: "This town needsa..."
I grew up in the John Lennon era and he was a dope headed freak! I would never even compare him to Jesus in any way!!!
Try to provide me actual proof evolution! Cannot happen, we see adaptation but no one cannot scientifically prove evolution! A dog cannot have sharks, two different species. Dogs adapt like huskies who have thicker fat layers and fur because of their colder climants where they grew up.
You cant make a cat from a rooster!
Evolution is a theroy only, pushed down our throats since Darwin croaked!
Doctor Scooter, what are you smoking??
To Cow Rancher:
I am not an agnostic, I am an atheist, Just like you, with one exception. I believe in just one less god than you.
As for Evolution, Well Doc you are just showing your ignorance of the subject.
Evolution is a well accepted scientific fact.
And yes, there is also a theory, the Theory of Evolution that explains those facts as we know them today.
And sorry for your ignorance doc but Darwin never claimed something as silly as Canis lupus familiarus breading and having Selachimorpha.
Evolution makes no such claim.
Your Ignorance of the subject is shocking!
I sure hope that Doc is just a pen name and that your not really a Doctor, that would be to frightening.
Try reading a book Doc.
I just finished this book and give it very high marks.
"The Greatest Show on Earth", by Richard Dawkins.
I thought Doc was joking...
You are as much of an agnostic as Richard Dawkins. By promoting his book shows your allegiance to believing in nothing and promoting your non-belief.
By the way, the "theory" of evolution is a misnomer as it can not be proven true or false. By not following the scientific process (skipping the hypothesis and testing stages), evolution is simply an unproven wish by those who refuse to accept science as a fact.
By the way, over 70% of scientists believe in God and over half don't believe in evolution as it is written. The definition of evolution depends on two things which are not defined: 1. mutations leading to order, 2. changes over an unspecified amount of time.
Once one knows the facts of mathematical probability of mutation leading to the development of a new self-reproducing species, then one would have to denounce the "theory" of evolution.
Richard Dawkins is a fool who can't tell you where all the stuff of life has come from without admitting it must have come from a higher power.
Rent the movie by Ben Stein, "Expelled" to see a unique spin on evolution and how scientists all over the world are being shunned by liberal colleges. So much for scientific reasoning.
And now it's Cow Ranchers turn to shows his ignorance, as I knew he would.
Once again Cow Rancher, you ignore the facts.
I have corrected you once, I am not an agnostic, I am an Atheist.
And as for your statement about the theory cant be proved. A theory is not something that is supposed to be proved true or false.
It is a statement that describes the facts, the observations, the knowledge as we know it.
Now if you wanna talk probability theory, oops, there is that word again.
Nowhere in the evolutionary theory does it mention anything about the mathematical probability of mutation leading to the development of a new self-reproducing species.
Thats not how evolution claims to work, thats not how Darwin claimed it worked.
You are so misinformed.
And as for your claim of 70% of Scientists believing in god, and that over half don't believe in evolution, what has that to do with evolution? Not one thing. But you threw it in to confuse people about the facts. Typical creationist ploy.
Nowhere does the theory claim mutations lead to order. In fact, the opposite is true. The second law of thermodynamics states that all things move towards entropy.
And as for your next point, changes over an unspecified amount time. We don't need to know the actual amount of time that it occurs on, however we can see that it does by examining the fossil record. It really is an undeniable fact backed by many years of observation, acquisition of knowledge, the process of making predictions and then finding the evidence that validates those predictions.
And as for the Ben Stein movie,,,,, LOL
There is not one bit of valid science in that bogus creationists flop of a movie.
And as for your statement about liberal colleges, that again has nothing to do with the facts as they are known about evolution. Thats your creationist ploy rising up again....
Get over it! It is a fact.
Science is the process of proving or disproving a hypothesis. Evolution can not be proven as it is written.
Since you quote the second law of thermodynamics, then you should know that to say a more "evolved" critter comes from a more primative one is antagonistic towards the "theory" of evolution. I also love your use of "prediction" in your explanation.
I have a prediction for you.
I predict, over time, that science will continue to disprove evolution through the use of scientific method, just as they have disproven global warming, and it will be re-wrtten to allow for an unkown entity (God) which has created the species as we know them today. I have followed the evolutionists for over forty years and they are a stubborn bunch, not allowing facts to change their minds. It is a religion to them that helps them justify their athieism.
Here's a couple of problems for you. What are the odds that one mutation can change a species from, being reproductive for it's own kind, then all the sudden it can't produce it's own kind and make a completely new species? I'll give you the odds if you can't find them. Second, give me one example of a species that has evolved into another species in your lifetime. You have well over one million to choose from...so go ahead and take a stab at it, since you are so enlightened, Mr. name-caller.
The reason more scientists believe in God, than 10 years ago, is because they understand the intensity of the genome and how perfect it is. They have no choice, other than believing in God, if they are going to be an accurate scientist.
Cow Rancher
You say evolution can't be proved as it is written. That statement is blatantly false if you are talking about whether or not evolution occurs. If however you are talking about the theory of evolution I have already told you that a theory is not something to be proved or disproved. It is merely a statement of the explanation of the FACTS as we know them.
You said that evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics. That is another blatantly false statement, and shows you know nothing about thermodynamics.
Evolution in no way violates the second law. Let me explain to you in terms you might eventually understand.
The earth is not a closed system, we receive energy from the sun to power growth on earth such as the grass your cows eat. You claim that the growing grass has caused order out of chaos thus violating the second law. Let me ask you this what happens to the order of that grass when it is eaten by your cows, and then what happens to the grass that was eaten by your cow that was then consumed by some human on the plane? Let me tell you what happens, ENTROPY! entropy that far exceeds the small amount of order caused by living things.
The earth is not a closed system so the second law is not violated by order and complexity that is evolution.
And as for the false statement that science has disproved global warming. The overwhelming majority of the worlds scientists have proved and agree that global warming caused by humans IS REAL. So again you make false statements.
And your claim that science "will be re-written to allow for an unknown entity (God)"
Well at that point it ceases to be science. Science is the study of the natural world, not the supernatural world.
You said "What are the odds that one mutation can change a species from, being reproductive for it's own kind, then all the sudden it can't produce it's own kind and make a completely new species?" I couldn't tell you, I don't know where you got that from but its not evolution. Evolutionary theory makes no such claim as that.
Again false statements from you.
Again you make claims that are not related to the theory of evolution, your creationist ploy is so obvious. And it is very apparent to any knowledgeable person you have no idea what evolutionary theory is.
Another claim you make is this "The reason more scientists believe in God, than 10 years ago, is because they understand the intensity of the genome and how perfect it is."
Perfect? are you insane?
Here is what your perfect designer did:
Prevalence of some single gene disorders[2]Disorder Prevalence
Autosomal dominant
Familial hypercholesterolemia 1 in 500
Polycystic kidney disease 1 in 1250
Huntington disease 1 in 2,500
Hereditary spherocytosis 1 in 5,000
Marfan syndrome 1 in 20,000
Autosomal recessive
Sickle cell anemia 1 in 625
(African Americans)
Cystic fibrosis 1 in 2,000
(Caucasians)
Tay-Sachs disease 1 in 3,000
(American Jews)
Phenylketonuria 1 in 12,000
Mucopolysaccharidoses 1 in 25,000
Glycogen storage diseases 1 in 50,000
Galactosemia 1 in 57,000
X-linked
Duchenne muscular dystrophy 1 in 7,000
Hemophilia 1 in 10,000
Values are for liveborn infants
YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD AND BELIEVE YOUR GOD DID ALL THAT.
And I am done discussing the issue with someone who does not even know what the theory of evolution is.
You claim to know evolution and I believe that you think you understand what evolution is.
The truth is your diatribe and ranting are good evidence that your ideas are founded in emotion rather than facts.
Global warming by humans is laughable and is demonstrated by the concensus of scientists (over 30,000 of them) on the petition project. I want more CO2 as it increases plant growth and gives us more glucose and oxygen. To say that 3-400 parts per million of a gas (way less than 1%) causes our atmosphere to heat is ridiculous as 78% of our atmosphere is nitrogen and 21% is oxygen. The CO2 molecule is linear and heavy and stays at or near ground level for plants to use in photosynthesis. The Calvin cycle depends on it.
There is no evidence of global warming the past ten years either as the trend lines indicate cooling since 1998 and not warming. It is a hoax to raise money for the left and to scare school children into their political party. Al Gore has made a cool $100 million alone, much less the other dupes who are scraping the stimulus package like bottom feeders(just wait to see who is trading carbon credits).
Evolution does not address the impossible odds of mutation leading to a new species because the math disproves the creation of that new species through mutation.
Only a creator can explain the existence of the species'. There has been no new species created from another species...therefore there is no evolution.
God created the beautiful genome and the ability to discover it. Mutation, which is highlighted by your nice list of diseases, causes illness and death, not evolution. Thank you for proving my point.
Since you have bowed out of this conversation, I'll ask the remaining two people who are reading this a question: If you believe in evolution and no God, then what was the progenetor of the platypus, peacock, bombadier beetle, and humans. In other words, give me the species that evolved into these animals.
By the way since you have such a great understanding of who knows what a theory is, then perhaps you could explain scientific reasoning to us in detail and provide us the experimental data that advanced evolution to "theory" status from a hypothesis.
I know, those stupid facts keep getting in the way of your religion so maybe you should consider a new church.
God created us both. I have chosen to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and savior and you have not.
You will learn the truth in eternity if you remain a non-believer. When you surrender, then you will learn the truth that day as the Holy Spirit will indwell you and change your life.
Go meat!
Wow! I came in late on this but I never imagined that such a mundane, happy feel good story would kick off such a debate.
I find it interesting that Evolouie is keeping the "real" definition of evolution to himself. He keeps stating that cow rancher doesn't know it but never lets the "real" definition out of the bag.
What's up with that? Makes Evolouie's argument sound lame. Without actually defining it as he knows it, he can claim cow ranchers "ignorance" and state his beliefs without worry of contradiction. Seems I've seen that tactic before... oh yeah, most every evolutionist I've heard. If I remember right, every college biology student is tasked with the "Fruit Fly Experiment". They raise fruit flies (which reproduce rapidly) and study/observe the generations for mutations. Students hope to view a "good" mutation showing a new character or trait helping to prove evolution... none have EVER been observed in the decades (notice the pluralization) of research. This was thought to be a great way to accomplish the task. Use students to farm a rapid reproducing specimen to show at least one "good" mutation thus proving evolution. These "fly ranchers" are today's God believing scientists...
PS: Please explain to me how earth's carbon emissions have reached Mars and has caused a "climate change" there at the same time as earth's. Because if it isn't the Sun that is helping cause our "situation" then we must be leaking our carbon and affecting Mars... I'm just sayin'.
Definitions:
evolution-The creation of a new species, through mutations, over a long period of time.
species-an organism that fits the definition of life (from the Kingdoms; archeabacteria, eubacteria, protista, plantae, fungi, and animalia)that can only reproduce with it's own kind and has offspring that are fertile.
These are definitions from the local Biology books used in Greene county schools.
Here is the statement and the list of over 32,000 scientists who catagorically deny that humans could cause global warming. This is a little more convincing than a few (400) liberal economists on the International Panal of Climate Change.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/
Even the founder of the Weather Channel and chief meteorologist of AccuWeather have changed their minds, after considering the data, on the earth's cooling and warming trends. Both agree that there is no way Co2 or humans could cause a change in the climate. The changes which are cyclical are caused by solar activities and the wobble of the earth. Annual changes occur from el Nino and La Nina as well as other factors unrelated to CO2 or other supposed greenhouse gases. The largest "greenhouse" gas is water vapor, not CO2 or methane.
PS Al Gore is a lawyer who only took one science class in college and received a "D".
Ok, one last thing.
Cow Rancher throws out all kinds of false claims and he even throws around a few straw men.
Look what he did with the C0-founder of the weather channel.
WOW! that guy must know all there is to know about weather because he founded the weather channel,,,,WRONG. He is not a scientist nor is he even a weatherman, nor is he a meteorologist.
John Colman, the founder of the weather channel is a journalist.
And as for his list of scientists, thats a very small fraction of the total number of scientists. And thats if the list is even accurate. The list to my knowledge (and yes I looked)has not been varified.
Here is the scientists take on Climate Change.
There have been 68, yes, only 68 recent peer-reviewed papers that could be considered to challenge, in some respect, the consensus view on global warming.
By contrast, the latest IPCC report, which represents the consensus view, contains references to 4,617 peer reviewed papers.
By that measure, about 98.5% of the science done recently supports the consensus.
Oh and one last thing What on earth does Al Gores college grades have to do with anything?
Poor old Cow Rancher just can't help it.
A peer reviewed paper is OK if the peers are to be taken seriously. Unfortunately, the IPCC is led by radical left wing tree huggers who have lots to profit if they can get countries to adopt any carbon tax strategy. When you say it is peer reviewed, then you lost credibility. They are even posturing themselves to penalize the US to be less productive or pay more tax. God help Indiana if these radicals tax coal. Perhaps evoluie could keep the homeless created by the fake global warming tax at his mansion and share his wealth.
Maybe he could even read them a bedtime story highlighting his narcicistic president.
Cow Rancher believes it's a radical leftwing conspiracy of the majority of scientists on the planet to make HIM pay more Taxes.......WOW!
Delusional!
The government is out of control.
The world is laughing at our incompetent leaders which should have rung true with you with the IOC's decision to eliminate Chicago first in the possible choices for the 2016 olympics. Even France can't believe what a joke is running this country.
Obama and his egotism, with Mrs. Egotism, proved how desperate they are for a personal victory.
I don't believe in conspiracy theories but understand the reality of the radical socialist agenda of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. America is a right of center leaning country and will make a correction in 2010 and 2012.
However, if their agenda gets passed as is, it will have a huge toll on our children.
Here are a few of the blunders so far:
Cap and Trade
Bailouts and buyouts
Healthcare reform and Medicare cuts
Company takeovers
Letting the Bush taxcuts expire
Letting the capital gains tax increase
Lack of response to our general in Afghanistan
The Czar circus
Poor judgement accross the board on associations
and appointments
Losing the Olypics
Snubbing Prime Minister Brown in New York
Bowing to the Prince of Saudi Arabia
on...and on...and on....this incompetent leader goes.
I hardly doubt that 32,000 scientists who agree that humans are not causing the earth to warm verses 400 economist clowns at the UN is a conspiracy. It is simply another sham by a temporary weak group of folks who believe that anyone who disagrees with them are useless.
Their day is coming soon and they can return to their multi--million dollar mansions and pay their self---imposed carbon tax.
If you read the facts in the Cap and Trade bill, then you would see that you , too, will have to come up with $1600-2000 more a year to fund their desires.
You have never had a majority of scientists who believe in what you believe. You will say anything to anyone who presents you with any idea other than yours to stroke your ego. Narcicism is the only condition you possess that explains your position.
Scientific reasoning frustrates you and drives you to call people who disagree "delusional".
I bet it's hard to be you.
In the meantime, doesn't a thick ribeye steak on the grill sound good about now?
Go meat!
Evolouie is the 3rd person I've seen cowrancher call a narcissist in 2 days. LOL
Blueyedame,
He must have just gotten a new "Word of the Day"
Email.
Actually, It's the new meme from the crazy republican media.
Look it up, it's all over the net how crazy they are getting over Obama.
I mean look at what the Nobel has done to them.
They are all going Bats-hit crazy today.
But he really did not deserve it, it's all just another left wing commie conspiracy.....LOL
But I, for the life of me can't see anyway for it to raise taxes on old Cow Rancher.
BOO!
Well, all I've got to say about the nobel joke prize is that the committee must have been smoking the same thing the American electorate was smoking when we elected GW for a second term.
Since the shoes fit, wear them,.
Obama was nominated 12 days after he was elected, by Feb. 1 (the deadline for nominations to recieve the "peace" prize.
Only one of two things explains his Nobel award:
His first 12 days in office must have been spectacular.
or
The Nobel prize committee must be left leaning, self promoting liberals.
Here is a list of Presidents or others who had great achievement but never won the prize:
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Ronald Reagan (freed over 100 million from east of the Berlin Wall).
Gearge W. Bush (freed 25 million people in Afghanistan and another 25 million people in Irag, not to mention Kuwait).
plus many others who truly contributed to world peace but weren't rcognized.
Here is a list of some who have won the prize:
Barry Obama
Jimmy Carter
Yaser Arafat
many others...
I can't imagine a club I would rather belong to than the former.
The committee must be desperate for a non-performing, charismatic underachievers.
To those who think it legitimizes Obama, congratulations!
I sure hope he decides to help the troops in Afghanistan soon!
There are so many deceptions in your rebutal, louie. Some are just lies and hopes. I guess you can say whatever you want as you don't feel you need to follow the ten commandments anyway.
I usually, at least, google things I say for accuracy to be certain. Although some sources on the internet are questionable, some are reputable.
For example, I knew you would degrade John Coleman, the Weather Channel founder, so I used him.
John has been a weatherman and meteorologist since 1953. He sucessfully founded the Weather Channel after seeing the need to offer weather news 24 hours a day.
I guess you think journalists are substandard or you wouldn't have degraded him. Personally, I believe he has done a good job educating America and the world as to the decption of global warming.
Evoloue, you said that the "List (http://www.petitionproject.org/frequently_asked_questions.ph)(the knew site)has not been verified... please explain how you know this and I can know it also. How do I go about seeing if it is verified and by whom?
Ha... I see I spelled "knew" instead of "new". That was not a play on words, just me being too tired and in a hurry. :P
It has been verified. I know three scientists (two from Crane and one professor) on the list and they all had to provide proof of diplomas or transcripts. One must be a Bachelor of Science in a science, Master of science or a PHd. in science to qualify for the list. Just read the application process. Their verification process takes over four weeks to approve and show up on the list.
I hope Timberly keeps this open. I check this link more often than my email!
cow rancher, I was already aware of the process (not your closeness to it of course) but was wondering what Evoloue would say to "back up" his statement. He sure is full of half truths and misleads/misdirects and yet says that you use those tactics. That seems to be the standard for liberals -lie and then call everyone else a liar. He shamelessly states that "The list to my knowledge (and yes I looked)has not been varified..." apparently to make himself look informed and sway anyone who may be lurking at this blog. That's wrong man, just plain wrong -or is that the "Liberal" way of science... Things that make you say, hmmm.
jbann,
I know many like him, but believe we have a certain majority. We went to the 9-12 march at Washington D.C. and it was amazing. So many people who think alike and want an America who puts morals first (with God), then family , then everything else.
Even with a conservative estimate at 1.2 million people at the march, there was a man holding a sign that most people there agreed with. It said "Don't make us come back here next year!"
I think we the people won't tolerate the lying and deception much longer. The base is angry and is ready to get rid of most of our representatives.
Thank you for "filling the gap" in your part of the world.
Look you two, and you know who you are.
As I stated in an earlier post John Colman is nothing more than a journalist. He has no scientific training in meteorology or weather forecasting or climatology.
No scientific training what so ever.
He is a weather forecaster, which means he stands in front of a camera and reads a script.
I have posted the facts.
Go to the petition site and read it, it says they try to verify the list.
And whats the big deal, the list is useless, it is not a list of people who study science or climatology or meteorology of any kind it is a list of people who have a BS or greater degree.
Useless! And a very small percentage of all scientists.
The facts are:
There are 68 peer reviewed papers that shed doubt on climate change.
There are 4,617 peer reviewed papers on the facts that climate change caused by humans is occurring.
My work here is done.
Oh and just one more thing.
The silly teabagging party in DC was not attended by millions as you claim.
It was attended by a few thousand insane republicans who think that the Boston tea party was about government taxation. Fools are they all.
ABC reported the crowd was in the "tens of thousands." The D.C. Police Department estimated the crowd at 65,000 to 70,000. The D.C Fire Department estimated the crowd at 60,000 to 70,000.
The Boston tea party was about the East India company and Corporate greed, and not about the Kings taxes.
Still with the half truths and lies.
For anyone who cares, visit the site and read for yourself whether these 31,478 American scientists with degrees and currently working in fields of specialization qualify to make a statement. And a simple search will inform you of the various reasons for the Boston Tea Party which even Wikipedia states that the foremost reason was Taxation without Representation... as far as the latest Conservative visit to DC, there were much more than a few thousand people. The scary thing is why the true numbers were not published.
OK if yoy say John Coleman is not crddible because he is only a meteorologist and weatherman, then that would certainly discredit Mr. D in one science class-Al Gore from having any say so in the debate. He is a buffoon anyway...so I'll trade you one John Coleman for your idol ALgore.
Your numbers, based on the police and fire department accounts are the maximum they can report to get the most man hours to work the march. If I was the fire chief or police chief, I would ask for the maximum if Pensyvania Avenue was packed from the white house to the capital building (one and a half miles five lanes wide). The march permit was for the west lawn of the capital. It was full one hour before the march and was sealed off by the police to refuse entry to any more(max the west lawn holds is 500,000). Then the crowd filled the north lawn and then the south lawn (each of which , at a max., holds over 300,000 each). Then at 11:30 the crowd began filling the center mall area (which we didn't have a permit for), another 150,000 people were in that are for an aerial estimate of 1.2 million people. Remember, the innauguration of Obama was at the same location. The crowd was estimated to be 2.5 times larger than innauguration. Obama's crowd left so much trash and litter, the area was shut down for cleaning. This crowd, which was much larger, didn't even leave a gum wrapper on the ground. I walked through it at 4:00 pm when it was over and it looked like no one was ever there. This crowd of "rebels" were good stewards of God's earth and did not litter. I have over 150 pictures and 2 videos of the crowd.
Also, 274 people were arrested at Obama's big party but there was not one arrest for this event.
The people there were courteous, thoughtful, intelligent, responsible, white, black, Indian, Asian, democrat, republican, grandparents, children and were all patriots who see the socialist steam roller taking away their families' rights. Only about one out of every hundred signs were anti-obama and those people were shouted down and not respected by the crowd. Although Obama thinks it was about him, it wasn't. It was about the governments' irresponsible stripping of our rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Evoluie, you have now said twice that you won't write any more in this blog, by your behavior is predictable.
I encourage your comments as the truth will set you free. Whenever you speak, you disclose another lie or distortion, that I and others, are more than willing to correct.
Thank you.
If you want to make a difference in life in America, and if this government doesn't get in check soon, there will be another march next year before the election. Try to schedule you and your family to come and participate. You will leave fealing that you are helping America and not just blogging. Your children, if you have any, will see that the Constitution is revered and is a document not to be messed with, but to be followed. Most importantly, you will find people who believe like you, that think free speech should be encouraged and not minimized.